Towing with a 2024 392

[Zissou]

With the 2024 full float axel change the Rubicons were rated to tow now 5,000 lbs... except the Rubicon 392 which retained the 3,500 lb tow rating.
What drives that difference? Is it as simple as Jeep just didn't re-rate the 392?
Surely the power isn't the problem. And I'm under the impression the axels, wheelbase, tires, etc are all the same as the Rubicon X.

As to why I'm asking, I'm thinking about buying a SxS like a Polaris Rzr. That rzr + a trailer will be right at that 3,500 lb mark... how sketchy is this going to be?

Any 392 owners tow 3,500+ with theirs? Is it terrible?

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[Casper_]

Just did a major trip to/from AZ (Phoenix) to CO (Ouray), that included MAJOR and LOOONG inclines, pulling a 3500 lbs, 22" Airstream (3607 lbs to be exact). Also trips to/from Phoenix to Sedona, Flagstaff, etc.

No problems whatsoever, no major cooling/trans temps. The only one that you need to keep an eye on when doing 70 on those long inclines is the oil temp. It won't go to red, but it will go higher than usual.

This is all while I have full armor, 37", and a load of other stuff on the Jeep. The AS was almost empty.

I also have experience towing on the East Coast, but that doesn't even compares to AZ/CO in terms of highway grades and temperature, so you shouldn't have any problems back East as long as you have proper towing equipment (anti-sway/weight distribution/brake controller).

 

[Paluss]

Chassis and suspension I read...

 

[TexasJeeper]

A lot of it has to do with the stock 35’s which induces more sway. It’s all about the full setup for the tow ratings. Even the regular Rubicons go down to 3500lbs rating when you get the 35’s vs the 33’s.

 

[JeepinAZ]

With the 2024 full float axel change the Rubicons were rated to tow now 5,000 lbs... except the Rubicon 392 which retained the 3,500 lb tow rating.
What drives that difference? Is it as simple as Jeep just didn't re-rate the 392?
Surely the power isn't the problem. And I'm under the impression the axels, wheelbase, tires, etc are all the same as the Rubicon X.

As to why I'm asking, I'm thinking about buying a SxS like a Polaris Rzr. That rzr + a trailer will be right at that 3,500 lb mark... how sketchy is this going to be?

Any 392 owners tow 3,500+ with theirs? Is it terrible?

I tow my RZR Pro XP on a heavy steel trailer behind my 2021 Rubicon 392 all the time. I live in Arizona and often tow with outside temps of 110 degrees. I have 38" tires and 4.88 gears. I've never had any problems with handling or any overheating.

 

[Zissou]

I tow my RZR Pro XP on a heavy steel trailer behind my 2021 Rubicon 392 all the time. I live in Arizona and often tow with outside temps of 110 degrees. I have 38" tires and 4.88 gears. I've never had any problems with handling or any overheating.

oh perfect the Rzr pro XP is one that I’m considering so that’s good to know!

I think with a weight distribution hitch I’ll be alright then

 

[JeepinAZ]

oh perfect the Rzr pro XP is one that I’m considering so that’s good to know!

I think with a weight distribution hitch I’ll be alright then

I just have a regular hitch. I can't see why you'd need a weight distribution hitch. I can hardly tell the trailer is behind me. In addition to my 38" tires it also has a Metalcloak 3.5" Gamechanger lift.

 

[Deleted Member RoadNomad]

In reality its a mute point what Stellantis did with the rating, it's that little tag on the door is what really screws you. Exceed those numbers and your opening yourself up to everything under the sun. God forbid you get into an accident towing something over 3500 lbs even if its not your fault.

Your insurance company, land shark ambulance chasing attorneys and law enforcement are going to have you and your wallet for lunch.

I don't mean to preach and having spent over 20 year pulling various type of campers, but I have personally known people on the bad side of this situation and it cost them dearly.

I recently took to the road again and I recently sold off my JLUR for a truck just to tow safely and by the book.

Want to tow, get a Gladiator, otherwise your just rolling the dice if your exceeding the rated value of your tow vehicle.

 

[JeepinAZ]

In reality its a mute point what Stellantis did with the rating, it's that little tag on the door is what really screws you. Exceed those numbers and your opening yourself up to everything under the sun. God forbid you get into an accident towing something over 3500 lbs even if its not your fault.

Your insurance company, land shark ambulance chasing attorneys and law enforcement are going to have you and your wallet for lunch.

I don't mean to preach and having spent over 20 year pulling various type of campers, but I have personally known people on the bad side of this situation and it cost them dearly.

I recently took to the road again and I recently sold off my JLUR for a truck just to tow safely and by the book.

Want to tow, get a Gladiator, otherwise your just rolling the dice if your exceeding the rated value of your tow vehicle.

Yes, that is good advice. The RZR and trailer he is considering pulling (which is the same as I have) weighs approximately 2700 lbs. total and that is with my steel bed single axle trailer. If he were to buy an aluminum trailer it would be even less.

 

[2nd 392]

In reality its a mute point what Stellantis did with the rating, it's that little tag on the door is what really screws you. Exceed those numbers and your opening yourself up to everything under the sun. God forbid you get into an accident towing something over 3500 lbs even if its not your fault.

Your insurance company, land shark ambulance chasing attorneys and law enforcement are going to have you and your wallet for lunch.

I don't mean to preach and having spent over 20 year pulling various type of campers, but I have personally known people on the bad side of this situation and it cost them dearly.

I recently took to the road again and I recently sold off my JLUR for a truck just to tow safely and by the book.

Want to tow, get a Gladiator, otherwise your just rolling the dice if your exceeding the rated value of your tow vehicle.

I don’t know about other states, but the CHP sometimes puts a jump scale at popular rv destinations. A phone call saved my son from one at Pismo, he’s at his F250’s limit with his toy hauler dry, always overweight loaded.

 

[dgerb]

I'm wondering, let's say that you get into an accident towing a trailer with a dry weight of 3200lbs. Are the accident investigators going weigh the trailer to see if exceeded the 3500lbs, assuming it's in one piece...

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