To angle, or not to angle...

[Sardaukar]

I've had my 2023 Wrangler for less than a month and I can't wait to get it off the pavement. But I live up in Wisconsin where there isn't much opportunity for such things. I've signed up the Jeep Adventure Academy's event down in Indiana in April and want to get my Jeep ready by then. Adding rock sliders is towards the top of the list. And I've been looking at lots of different products out there for the past few weeks.

I think I am going to go with GOAT Fabrication's rock/step sliders. But they come in two versions, with a 23 degree angle or just flat. While yes the angled version better protects the sides, my Jeep will leave the payment maybe 3 times a year. And my wife is 5'1" and already complaining that I need to add a step for her to get in. Is the angled version really that important? Or should I just get the flat version and keep the wife happy? Note that I don't have a lift added yet and don't have any immediate plans to add one. We'll see how April goes.

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[Flip]

I personally think the flat looks better plus the benefits of a step, and it keeps your wife happy. I think you already know the answer to your question.

You may not have a lift now and don't have plans at the moment, but this is a jeep forum with a lot of experienced jeep enthusiasts who probably knows a jeep owners future a little better than yourself. I'd bet dollars to donuts once you start off-roading, you will more than likely want to lift your jeep. If you get hooked good and proper, you'll probably end up doing a lot more than just a lift.

You see a jeep is unlike any other vehicle IMO and that's what I love about them. You get to enjoy the transformation of your jeep, the personalization, the whole shopping experience for aftermarket goodies, the research you'll do on the forum. It really is a great experience.

Pace yourself my friend, one mod at a time and enjoy it. ?

BTW I though your name sounded familiar.

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[vetygud]

I like the construction and looks of the GOAT slider flat boards. They can be installed over the factory sliders and would give you that extra protection with the benefit of a step.

 

[msudawg]

I think you should ask Adam at GOAT. Obviously, he will give you what you want, but the angled sliders are classic and I think they are still out enough to be used as a step when compared to the MOPAR step assist.

 

[6th Floor Mule]

I've had my 2023 Wrangler for less than a month and I can't wait to get it off the pavement. But I live up in Wisconsin where there isn't much opportunity for such things. I've signed up the Jeep Adventure Academy's event down in Indiana in April and want to get my Jeep ready by then. Adding rock sliders is towards the top of the list. And I've been looking at lots of different products out there for the past few weeks.

I think I am going to go with GOAT Fabrication's rock/step sliders. But they come in two versions, with a 23 degree angle or just flat. While yes the angled version better protects the sides, my Jeep will leave the payment maybe 3 times a year. And my wife is 5'1" and already complaining that I need to add a step for her to get in. Is the angled version really that important? Or should I just get the flat version and keep the wife happy? Note that I don't have a lift added yet and don't have any immediate plans to add one. We'll see how April goes.

https://goatfabrication.com/collect...-wrangler-4-door-rock-sliders-with-top-plates

No idea how hardcore your “maybe 3 times a year” will be, but have you considered the Mopar Performance sliders? You wouldn’t want to buy new, but takeoffs are cheap. Some complain they’re too narrow to use as a step, but my vertically challenged regular passengers seem to be able to make ‘em work. However, if you’re 5’1” and rocking size 14 shoes . . . . you’ll need to search elsewhere . . . or join the circus or something ?.

 

[Sardaukar]

I personally think the flat looks better plus the benefits of a step, and it keeps your wife happy. I think you already know the answer to your question.

You may not have a lift now and don't have plans at the moment, but this is a jeep forum with a lot of experienced jeep enthusiasts who probably knows a jeep owners future a little better than yourself. I'd bet dollars to donuts once you start off-roading, you will more than likely want to lift your jeep. If you get hooked good and proper, you'll probably end up doing a lot more than just a lift.

You see a jeep is unlike any other vehicle IMO and that's what I love about them. You get to enjoy the transformation of your jeep, the personalization, the whole shopping experience for aftermarket goodies, the research you'll do on the forum. It really is a great experience.

Pace yourself my friend, one mod at a time and enjoy it. ?

BTW I though your name sounded familiar.

Sardaukar Chant Lyrics Translated (youtube.com)

I like the look of the flat ones better as well. The angled ones looked strange to me at first and I haven't seen any Wranglers or Gladiators with angled ones around me, but most of them probably haven't seen anything other than grass or gravel. Though the angled look is starting to grow on me. Eventually I want to make some road trips out West.

With this upcoming purchase, I'll be at almost $5k in updates and add-ons already so far. And the wish-list is still a mile long. And the yes the name is from Frank Herbert's Dune series, but I've never heard that strange chant before.

I like the construction and looks of the GOAT slider flat boards. They can be installed over the factory sliders and would give you that extra protection with the benefit of a step.

I felt that was a plus. If I removed the factory ones and that section was exposed like I've seen on other sliders, I'd want to paint that bottom section black or otherwise cover it. Though you are lowering your overall bottom clearance.

No idea how hardcore your “maybe 3 times a year” will be, but have you considered the Mopar Performance sliders? You wouldn’t want to buy new, but takeoffs are cheap. Some complain they’re too narrow to use as a step, but my vertically challenged regular passengers seem to be able to make ‘em work. However, if you’re 5’1” and rocking size 14 shoes . . . . you’ll need to search elsewhere . . . or join the circus or something ?.

I'm 6 foot. It's the spousal unit that is only 5'1". And I'll be the daring one with the wife freaking out in the passenger seat.

I looked at the Mopar ones at the dealer and I wasn't very impressed. So I figured I'd wait and look at what the aftermarket had once I actually had a Jeep in my garage. I had ordered a 2024 MT but after 4 months of waiting without anything happening, I grabbed one of the 23s that started becoming available after the clutch recall fix. My original order is still just sitting there pending. Only out a hundred bucks on it.

I think you should ask Adam at GOAT. Obviously, he will give you what you want, but the angled sliders are classic and I think they are still out enough to be used as a step when compared to the MOPAR step assist.

I was hoping to get an order in before the 20% off Goatmas sale was over. Not sure when it ends. With the holidays, not sure how long I could wait for a response.

Right now I think I'm leaning towards the flat ones. And then if it becomes an issue, I can always look at lifts and tires. I turn 50 this week. Is this my mid-life crisis?

 

[Flip]

Nice! I love Dune. This is the remake of course but I haven't watched Dune it a long time.

Dune - Sardaukar Chant - (HDR - 4K - 5.1) (youtube.com)

 

[Sardaukar]

Nice! I love Dune. This is the remake of course but I haven't watched Dune it a long time.

Dune - Sardaukar Chant - (HDR - 4K - 5.1) (youtube.com)

That one I know. I'm a fan of the Sci-Fi Channel's mini-series from eons ago and just read all the books. No chants in those.

 

[Sardaukar]

Reading through this thread, I think it is pushing me more towards flat. A quote from that thread:

a step to make my wife happy. Happy wife = more upgrades down the road ha!!

This is probably more true than we'd like to admit.

 

[Flip]

Sardaukar

If you don't mind me asking, what do you think of this step? It's a rocker guard and a subtle step about 3.5" wide. Does the price seem a little high?

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[Sardaukar]

Sardaukar

If you don't mind me asking, what do you think of this step? It's a rocker guard and a subtle step about 3.5" wide. Does the price seem a little high?

Mopar 82215129AB Performance Rock Rails for 18-20 Jeep Wrangler JL 2 Door | Quadratec

In the video, the guy put his hand on them and they were only four fingers deep. And that is going under the slight slope of the door frame. Maybe you could get your toe on them. And it doesn't seem to have much of a mounting bracket. What's the weight limit for these? Seems a little pricey for what you get. And you are replacing what was already there with not much of an improvement. Unless you have a Sport that didn't come with any rails to begin with.

 

[Flip]

In the video, the guy put his hand on them and they were only four fingers deep. And that is going under the slight slope of the door frame. Maybe you could get your toe on them. And it doesn't seem to have much of a mounting bracket. What's the weight limit for these? Seems a little pricey for what you get. And you are replacing what was already there with not much of an improvement. Unless you have a Sport that didn't come with any rails to begin with.

Not sure on the weight limit.

I was thinking the same thing, for that kind of money and they essentially cut it short, it's just not quite wide enough, it might be more of a hazard to use it.

Thanks for taking a look it for me, I appreciate it.

 

[JesseT]

Reading through this thread, I think it is pushing me more towards flat. A quote from that thread:

This is probably more true than we'd like to admit.

I went with flat. The performance differences between flat and angled are probably going to be pretty nuanced, if it even makes a difference at all for the kind of wheeling I plan on doing. The quality-of-life difference of my wife being happier to climb into my Jeep way outweighs a slight potential performance difference.

 

[6th Floor Mule]

Not sure on the weight limit.

I was thinking the same thing, for that kind of money and they essentially cut it short, it's just not quite wide enough, it might be more of a hazard to use it.

Thanks for taking a look it for me, I appreciate it.

It’s wide enough for a shoe . . . remember, it’s only considered step “assist.” Is it as good as a ladder, scaffolding, or a diving platform? of course not. However, you’d be amazed how adaptable people can be when this is all they have to work with. At the same time, I do understand people come in all shapes, sizes, and mobility levels, so hopefully @Sardaukar finds something that works for his situation ?.

Pricey? Never buy retail . . .

 

[The Last Cowboy]

That one I know. I'm a fan of the Sci-Fi Channel's mini-series from eons ago and just read all the books. No chants in those.

The sound of those chants reminded me of this Mongolian band that I haven’t heard in awhile

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