Strangly missing features

[Majestic]

A lot of the functions you mentioned are gutted in the States for various reasons (safety liability, cost control, less regulation). This happens a lot in many brands, for example, European Ford Focus have everything you mentioned (1-up and down, auto window up on lock) while US Ford Focus does not have any of that.

This isn’t even consistent among FCA’s own lineup. Our Pacifica has express up and down on all windows.
Our 2011 Grand Cherokee had windows that went down with the remote, but in 2012 they dropped it. My 2016 Mustang has that feature however so it’s not just a European thing.
Cost is a joke when you’re talking about $50k cars. Make it $50,016 and add the additional sensors. Whatever.

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[Slowpoke]

My TJ had a radio, didn't even use that.
Now all of this...

 

[Northeastbst]

Yeah, this one is pretty surprising since that is the standard way that feature works.

Uhmm....removable doors

 

[ClaytonW]

Front camera would help. I had it on my old JK and sometimes, it was really useful in more difficult terrain. I will probabably try to add it, Tazer JL can unblock the additional video input on 8.4" Uconnect unit.
Also some other features, which I have on my daily driven SUV, would be useful - Head-up display or automatic high-beam control.

 

[IronScott]

Tazer JL camera kit is a fairly easy install and works great.

First world problems I miss from my F150 are: rain sensing wipers, auto high-beam, surround vehicle cameras. Clearly those things are creature comforts that don’t fit the Jeep culture but a $50k+ vehicle should have those things. I’m not complaining, though. Love my Jeep.

 

[pablo_max3045]

Uhmm....removable doors

but they can have auto unlock? Don't get the logic on this one.

 

[Northeastbst]

but they can have auto unlock? Don't get the logic on this one.

What I'm trying to say is if you start compiling auto lock, auto up windows, etc, etc, etc..you start making a Jeep not a Jeep but more like a honda.

Plus these things require space for wires, and modules, and adds cost, and so on, I wont bore you. Jeep invested money and time to improve other areas like off/on road capabilty(and other improvements), etc, etc, etc........basically, focus on all the improvements they made to the JL it's an offroad vehicle.

Where would you focus your time and money if you were building it?

I'm sure you catch my drift, dont feel like typing anymore

 

[pablo_max3045]

Where would you focus your time and money if you were building it?

I'd rather they focus on things like actually checking welds before they left the factory.

 

[Northeastbst]

I'd rather they focus on things like actually checking welds before they left the factory.

Lol very good point!!

 

[trainsafe]

I wish the key fobs had some ridges on the buttons to help find the lock/unlock button in your pocket without having to look at the buttons. You know, the little Braille-like nubs so you know your thumb in on the unlock instead of the panic button.

I’m sick of looking at the fob every time.

 

[Majestic]

What I'm trying to say is if you start compiling auto lock, auto up windows, etc, etc, etc..you start making a Jeep not a Jeep but more like a honda.

Plus these things require space for wires, and modules, and adds cost, and so on, I wont bore you. Jeep invested money and time to improve other areas like off/on road capabilty(and other improvements), etc, etc, etc........basically, focus on all the improvements they made to the JL it's an offroad vehicle.

Where would you focus your time and money if you were building it?

I'm sure you catch my drift, dont feel like typing anymore

The spirit of thread is essentially extremely cheap features that they seemed to have gone out of their way to not implement. Like would it have really cost too much to allow the fuel door to hold the gas cap?
They don’t add more wires anymore. Everything is done by canbus. A lot of electronic features are a just a matter of programming.

Lack of features doesn’t make a Jeep a Jeep otherwise they would still have doors and heaters as an option. They did invest in more off-road capability, but they invested a lot more in bringing the interior and features to keep up with the times.

 

[Rahneld]

Does anyone else wonder why some obvious features were not included in the JL?

Especially things that are really only software settings.

Sometimes. For example, the Tazer JL aftermarket product shows us that having audible alarms when opening the hood while the vehicle is armed is purely a software setting. So you're not alone in your sentiments. You'd think that with less restriction than most other vehicles to under hood components more valuable than most other vehicle's that this would have been a factory setting. But...FCA doesn't have to (see below.)

For example: Why are the windows only auto down? How much more could it have possible cost to make them auto up? I had a 1994 Honda Accord that could do it.

Again I agree. FWIW, there's a post here on how to do this yourself (I suspect without door based safety pressure sensors), which isn't trivial IMHO and doesn't address your question as to why such a feature wasn't standard for those (the majority of) Wrangler owners who have power windows.

I suspect when FCA made these decisions they factored in the cost of the extra parts, the legal claims of those who get injured nonetheless despite sensors when the window goes up, the degree to which such features weren't worth it to add to the cost--or worse disenfranchise loyalists who think "doors," let alone power windows in them, sell the Wrangler brand short--and other factors I haven't considered.

FCA is in a unique position to be able to shrug their shoulders and say, at least on the Wrangler, "if the owners want it bad enough they'll event solutions and product to do so."

Why can't you open and close all the windows my holding down the lock/unlock button on the FOB? My old 2007 VW could do that.

Again, I'm with you. But I think the more "to point" question to ask here, looking at this as purely a business decision is "why add a feature that isn't going to generate more sales on an already sought after vehicle?"

As I'm sure you appreciate, that 2007 VW you refer to had competition in its market space far greater than that the Wrangler does. And if that VW doesn't have (an example that may not be true) "dual climate zones" and a competitor did, it might matter to the consumer more to buy another brand.

We all like to think that FCA is loyal to its base and it is; but as a means to a loftier goal: profit. Its executives are duty bound to maximize shareholder profit. You I suspect already know this: I don't mean hard feelings from pointing out the obvious.

That I wish those shareholders were solely vehicle owners.....another debate.

Would be handy, especially in conjunction with the power sliding top.
Why no power port on the top of the dash?

I suspect because the bean counters felt not having this would affect sales less than not having some other feature. I suspect those same bean counter's figures (right or wrong) suggested that of the % of owners polled that would want this feature, they would want to pay less for it than FCA wanted to charge. And I suspect that execs considered the fact that someone could always devise and publish or sell a hack to do this more elegantly than how its implemented from the factory on other vehicles.

Sigh..the rules are different when it comes to Wranglers given the historically high degree of customization, ingenuity, and perseverance of its owners do to things often as well or better than the factory could compared to many other vehicles, and the vehicles uniqueness in its product space.

Jeep knows most users will mount stuff up there. I know you don't have the VW Amarok in the states, but it has a high amp port up there. Perfect for mounting your tablet or phone.

Anyone else got any?

Sure, as do all of those who posted before me with very good ones. If the Wrangler ever gets some really good competition: and the greatest new competitor that's 75% its price still won't have its aftermarket, then Wrangler execs I suspect will need to think differently. It may help to appreciate that FCA execs make these decisions to maximize overall profit of the line, which sometimes doesn't coincide with your or my specific needs, or that they sometimes "get it wrong."

Sometimes they just put off features to the next model: adjustable speed cruise control.

Overall I love the JL. Just think that at the price point, it would have been nice to have a few extras.

Yes and yes. : - )

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[Northeastbst]

I wish the key fobs had some ridges on the buttons to help find the lock/unlock button in your pocket without having to look at the buttons. You know, the little Braille-like nubs so you know your thumb in on the unlock instead of the panic button.

I’m sick of looking at the fob every time.

Omg, yes I totally agree!!

Should've also made a proximity auto start feature, wont have to push that stupid little button anymore!!

And the transmission, dont get me started...should definitely be able to have the Jeep read your mind and shift gears for you.

 

[Jo's Jeep]

I bought my Wrangler to get away from too much techy stuff, not immerse myself in it. Sometimes less is more.

 

[Rahneld]

I wish the key fobs had some ridges on the buttons to help find the lock/unlock button in your pocket without having to look at the buttons. You know, the little Braille-like nubs so you know your thumb in on the unlock instead of the panic button.

I’m sick of looking at the fob every time.

Raised lettering is a good idea.

I use to feel this way. A forum member suggested I feel for the key open button to get my orientation before pressing buttons. It works like a charm for me. : - )

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