Spare tire hoist?

[dlong1119]

I find it easier to lift the tire onto the back than I do replacing a drive wheel.

I completely agree with this. At ~95lbs, it's a lot easier when I can use my legs and a solid grip with my arms to lift onto the spare carrier vs just trying to lift a wheel a few inches while contorted in an awkward position or sitting on the ground and just using my arms.

The key to either one is having the lugs lined up as close to perfect as possible. Watching the video of the guy who rigged up the straps to lift his (which was a ridiculous setup), I was appalled at the clip showing the 2 guys at what looked to be a Discount Tire struggling to get his spare tire installed. It's a wonder that he still has a functional backup camera with how much banging around they did of that wheel. I'm even more cautious of not scratching up my Teraflex camera extension but am planning to make a quick sleeve that can be slipped over it before removal/install to protect it. I just need to take a couple of measurements and find some suitable PVC or plastic conduit that will fit well and cut a section.

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[DonH63]

I wonder how or if the winch scheme works with a rear camera? That thing sticks out quite a bit and I don't want to break it. The ramp idea seems good; they might be able to double as traction aides? There are lots of options in the garage, including an overhead winch mounting to the ceiling joists, but something that works on the trail is needful IME/IMO.

 

[2mnycars]

Here you go Scott. Throw one of these in the back while traveling. Just roll up, spin, straddle, lift just little and set on lugs. ??

That's genius.

Long long time ago tire/wheel weight freaked me out. Mercedes 450 SL. With their awful wheel bolts. I could just see myself trying to change a wheel on that car on the shoulder of the road in my commutes to Northern Ontario.
Now I have a spare set of brand new wheels and tires for the Rubi stored in the basement. And I'm a new heart patient. Stock K02's on stock rims.

So I'm open to ideas.

 

[hoag4147]

That's genius.

Long long time ago tire/wheel weight freaked me out. Mercedes 450 SL. With their awful wheel bolts. I could just see myself trying to change a wheel on that car on the shoulder of the road in my commutes to Northern Ontario.
Now I have a spare set of brand new wheels and tires for the Rubi stored in the basement. And I'm a new heart patient. Stock K02's on stock rims.

So I'm open to ideas.

I was messing around swapping out the Teraflex spare mount and seen my old motorcycle ramp laying in the corner and thought this may make it easier, worked well. They make a trifold also that may work better when hauling on a trip, not as bulky.

 

[kah.mun.rah]

I flip the bottom of the tire up onto the rear bumper and then lean the tire/wheel up to line up the lugs while it is resting on the bumper instead of trying to lift the entire thing up into place.

 

[RubiSc0tt]

Here you go Scott. Throw one of these in the back while traveling. Just roll up, spin, straddle, lift just little and set on lugs. ??

Ugh. Perfect example of me overthinking things. This is a brilliant solution. I want to argue it, but the only thing I can see is maybe space is limited on road trips? Even so, a couple (on sale) traction boards could bolt to my tire carrier and remain outside the Jeep. If you catch some traction boards and get the mounts off one of the big 4wd sites, you could be in it for less than some of these hand winch/ spare tire hoist options.
I'm going to have to seriously think about this option, because it's way lower effort and far more adaptable cause it could be used for other purposes.

For anyone Still considering the winch/ hoist options:
I took some measurements behind my tire on the carrier (Body Armor 4x4 Single Action Swing out).
Rough estimates:
5" Tall (between tire carrier surface and inside of rim corner
6" deep (from the mounting surface to the rear (tailgate) edge
8" Wide (Left to right)

This rules out both of the Harbor Freight options I looked at, so if I do decide to mount up a hoist I'm probably going to go with one of the other options posted (most likely the guy in the video).

 

[Medsker]

I wonder how the bar from a hi-lift would work as a ramp ? It would obviously be steeper and narrower but if you're careful it may work. I would think you would want the 60" one and maybe some way to hook the one end to the bumper to make it more stable. Just thinking out loud here.

 

[RubiSc0tt]

I wonder how the bar from a hi-lift would work as a ramp ? It would obviously be steeper and narrower but if you're careful it may work. I would think you would want the 60" one and maybe some way to hook the one end to the bumper to make it more stable. Just thinking out loud here.

I carry my HiLift everywhere with me and I can say, I have zero desire to actually get it out of the Jeep unless it's dire circumstances. I've actually been looking at replacing it with a Safe Jack, but that's another story. Anyway, The handle is round and even if propped up on the bumper and used as a ramp, it would likely roll around and result in the tire falling off. I wouldn't want to use it unless I was really up the creek.

Likewise- I've thought about using a bar and sliding it over the camera housing as it's steel on my Tire carrier, then lift the bar and slide the center of the tire on, but these tires and wheels are pretty heavy and it would still require a significant amount of strength to lift.

The point of a hoist or a ramp would be to take the stress off my injured shoulder.

 

[Medsker]

I was thinking of the bar not the handle. I think you're right the handle would roll around. I don't carry a hi-lift usually but my rear bumper has a place for it. I'm getting 39's on my Jeep next week so they will even get heavier. My 37 inch I lifted it up from the inside, close to me edge to rest the bottom of the tire on my bumper and then lifted it from there. That seemed to work but I don't know if I can lift the 39's. I guess this is another reason not to wheel alone and to make sure at least someone is young and strong

 

[Eyeball]

I wonder how or if the winch scheme works with a rear camera? That thing sticks out quite a bit and I don't want to break it. The ramp idea seems good; they might be able to double as traction aides? There are lots of options in the garage, including an overhead winch mounting to the ceiling joists, but something that works on the trail is needful IME/IMO.

He used a teraflex aftermarket tire mount and plate / camera mount that frees up that center hole.

 

[RubiSc0tt]

I was thinking of the bar not the handle. I think you're right the handle would roll around. I don't carry a hi-lift usually but my rear bumper has a place for it. I'm getting 39's on my Jeep next week so they will even get heavier. My 37 inch I lifted it up from the inside, close to me edge to rest the bottom of the tire on my bumper and then lifted it from there. That seemed to work but I don't know if I can lift the 39's. I guess this is another reason not to wheel alone and to make sure at least someone is young and strong

Ah, I see what you were going for now. You could probably do that with a 60" jack and a cable through the horn of the jack or something similar. I know they have attachments for lifting tires, but not necessarily onto a rear tire carrier of a lifted Jeep

 

[DonH63]

I was thinking of the bar not the handle. I think you're right the handle would roll around. I don't carry a hi-lift usually but my rear bumper has a place for it. I'm getting 39's on my Jeep next week so they will even get heavier. My 37 inch I lifted it up from the inside, close to me edge to rest the bottom of the tire on my bumper and then lifted it from there. That seemed to work but I don't know if I can lift the 39's. I guess this is another reason not to wheel alone and to make sure at least someone is young and strong

I'd never keep the tire on the handle. Or, rather, I'd keep it on long enough to get high enough to break my foot when I stupidly dropped it off at the end.

I was thinking of shorter ramps just to help roll it up, or traction planks, would work pretty well. I like the winch idea, but... KISS.

 

[ScotM]

I I use this for my 35”s on a 2” lift. Don’t get a knock off like vevor. They suck. I can also lift heavy items into my cargo storage rack with it. Great for the garage, I think it is too large to want to lug around.

 

[Ol’ Timey Manual SWB Guy]

I’d actually been thinking about this “problem” myself, and it’s odd to me that all the Jeep steel-rear-bumper aftermarket fabricators haven’t simply agreed upon a standardized vertical tube inside diameter (ID) for a davit. What’s a davit? It’s the crane thing on a yacht or a huge warship. Or, made smaller, on a Jeep.

The fabricators can compete like crazy on the methods of support, geometries, hidden trusswork and bracing, durability, weight ratings, how far off vehicle centerline they can get, aesthetic caps and/or flushness, storage of the bits, etc. But the hole should be a standard, IMHO. Like it is for hitches.

This kind of thing already exists for the utility industry, generally for lifting heavy things (e.g., people and gigantic valves) down into confined spaces (especially manholes). Here we’re talking about lifting less heavy things out in the open, up to about 5’ high.

Here’s one:

Pelsue davit

 

[Atomic-Mouse]

I have always wanted to build a lighter version of the military hummer tire carrier, it swings out and then uses a racheting turn buckle to raise and lower the tire, it also is set up so once it is raised you apply pressure down onto a locking bracket. im surprised nobody has built something similar for Jeeps, especially with more and more people going to 40s. If this was made out of aluminum it wouldn’t weigh much.
I have 4 screws a titanium plate and one titanium vertebrae in my lower spine all fused into the vertebrae on each side of the injury and limited use of my left leg so lifting even a 35 inch tire is out of the question. I carry tire plugs and on board air, my spare tire is the last resort. I figured if I need it getting the spare down is easy enough gravity does all the work, but putting the flat back on the carrier will never happen. I’d just push it off in the bushes mark it on gps and return with a friend to help pick it up.

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