Over here, several folks swapped a Cummins in.
Even more proving my point. Ford fans "its a great truck if you put $15k in the engine" "it's even better if you drop $25k+ on a whole new drivetrain." Modern Jeep buyers "the visor might break or the hinges might corrode, sell it now at a 40+% loss before its too late".
The above statement is really glossing over reality. It's definitely true that quality has slipped across the board. But pretending that that fact makes all brands equal is really missing the mark. There are major differences in design ethos and manufacturing processes that result in very different experiences.
...requiring a complete repaint that Stellantis will do everything in its power to deny coverage for, or you might spend $10k chasing random electrical gremlins and end up being without your vehicle for three months while your dealer ignores you and your calls to Jeep Cares go unanswered...
I've had 0 corrosion issues across 2 JLs and a JT at this point. No electrical gremlins either. There are many on here with similar experience. Several with a lot more miles than we've put in. Pretending it's inevitable and selling after 1 year at a massive loss is crazy to me. Odds are by the time I'd see corrosion out west I'd need a full repaint due to the amount of pinstripes the manzanita leaves on the thing anyway. I'll take paint issues over a vehicle that doesn't run for months at a time like my garbage 6.0 personally but to each their own.
Understood…that stinks; but for me the car has been otherwise trouble free. Can’t say that about my very expensive Wrangler.
Well I don't disagree with that but it's also smart to research and understand what you are buying...the fact that you haven't had any issues (I haven't either) does not erase the huge group of owners that have.
I agree with ^. My 2015 JK was trouble free…and I was anticipating the same when purchasing my 2020, thinking incorrectly that the new model bugs had been worked out. I learned a lesson….
I didn't do too much research before buying our 2019, but I've been on here since then. Didn't scare me away from buying the 2022 when the 19 was stolen or the 2023 JT mojave when they were offering massive discounts and I was considering a truck purchase anyway in October. I would still call the majority of common issues minor in comparison to common transmission and engine failures I've not only read about but had the unfortunate personal experience with from both New ford's I've ever owned. Even paint bubbling at the hinges is minor by comparison. Especially in the day of full vehicle wraps for $4k, you have the choice to just run it with bubbling hinges, knock off the corrosion with some sand paper and hit it with a couple coats of primer and wrap it, or go for the full repaint even if you're out of warranty. That's everything from free to weekends but none of those leave you stranded on the side of the road or even worse on some remote trail in the middle of nowhere. After my Ford experiences I'd never trust one out in the desert or snow wheeling solo, both of which we do regularly in our Jeeps.
Agree to disagree - I don't see the point in differentiating between a $10k engine repair or a $10k electrical repair. If anything the engine repair is better because you can go wherever you want to get that taken care of (assuming you are paying for it of course). Electrical work is only getting done at the dealer on JLs.
What $10k electrical repair? We were talking paint bubbling? I've yet to see anyone on here with a $10k electrical repair?
Yeah, pretty much. But some of the folks that swapped them did it because it was really low mileage, they were into it for a lot of money (bought them new) and weren't ready to trade in for a complete loss.
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