Snatch block question

[Flip]

This could be for me but more than likely it's to help out other wheelers on the trail. How strong of a snatch block do I need? Is this snatch block any good?

Amazon.com: TICONN 10 Ton Winch Snatch Block Towing Pulley Blocks 22,000 LBS Capacity, Heavy Duty Offroad Recovery Accessory for Truck, Tractor, ATV & UTV : Automotive

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[conFUcius]

This could be for me but more than likely it's to help out other wheelers on the trail. How strong of a snatch block do I need? Is this snatch block any good?

Amazon.com: TICONN 10 Ton Winch Snatch Block Towing Pulley Blocks 22,000 LBS Capacity, Heavy Duty Offroad Recovery Accessory for Truck, Tractor, ATV & UTV : Automotive

I can’t attest to that brand but it looks somewhat similar to this from Factor 55:

https://factor55.com/product/rope-retention-pulley/

 

[C.Sco]

it looks somewhat similar to this from Factor 55:
https://factor55.com/product/rope-retention-pulley/

It does? I don't think we're looking at the same products

 

[dragoneggs]

In terms of safety, it is not generally the snatch block itself as the culprit… rather it is the other tension ropes and do dads. Understanding most likely failure point and consequences is vital. This is severely discounted by the vast majority or weekend winchers.

The weak point will fail. What that launches and where it will go is what you need to understand.

Best… eliminate as much as possible, heavy metallic mechanisms in your pull chain.

 

[conFUcius]

It does? I don't think we're looking at the same products

Oops, my bad, looked at it way too quickly last night

 

[GATORB8]

This is the same as the 100 other 10 metric ton snatch blocks on Amazon and other places, I'll admit there's one in my recovery bag.

While of course there's the concern of pully failure, the good thing about this style is that they are designed to deform the holes before failing so there is a tell tale prior to actual failure.

As far as loading, if only used for double line pulls, both your tree saver, the shackle from the block to the tree saver, and the block need to be rated for the full pull (2x the winch pull). The winch, line, and tie back shackle would see half the full pull.

So it appears you'd be good from the listing, except we shouldn't use failure load as our measure. In professional hoisting, each item has both a failure load and a Working Load Limit (WLL). There is a Factor of Safety that determines the WLL off of failure load.

 

[BigMaCro]

I do not use or recommend any generic knock-off equipment for winching and recovery.

The tension loads this equipment is under means that when they fail, people may be killed.

When you purchase Factor55, ARB, Warn, etc, you are paying for proper engineering, high-quality materials, manufacturing techniques, and regular destructive and non-destructive testing and certification.

When you purchase from amazon or aliexpress, you get a pretty picture of something that may look like the thing you need, but who knows what material it is made from, whether it has the required strength and deformation properties, and if it is manufactured properly. It is certainly not tested and certified to the same standards.

I regularly purchase plastic bits and bobs from amazon to put on my Jeep, but I do not use them life-critical situations.

 

[GATORB8]

I do not use or recommend any generic knock-off equipment for winching and recovery.

The tension loads this equipment is under means that when they fail, people may be killed.

When you purchase Factor55, ARB, Warn, etc, you are paying for proper engineering, high-quality materials, manufacturing techniques, and regular destructive and non-destructive testing and certification.

When you purchase from amazon or aliexpress, you get a pretty picture of something that may look like the thing you need, but who knows what material it is made from, whether it has the required strength and deformation properties, and if it is manufactured properly. It is certainly not tested and certified to the same standards.

I regularly purchase plastic bits and bobs from amazon to put on my Jeep, but I do not use them life-critical situations.

Especially for straps, another reliable option to avoid the Jeep tax are manufacturers for professional rigging and towing.

 

[Headbarcode]

This could be for me but more than likely it's to help out other wheelers on the trail. How strong of a snatch block do I need? Is this snatch block any good?

Amazon.com: TICONN 10 Ton Winch Snatch Block Towing Pulley Blocks 22,000 LBS Capacity, Heavy Duty Offroad Recovery Accessory for Truck, Tractor, ATV & UTV : Automotive

Does your winch have synthetic rope or steel cable?

 

[C.Sco]

Does your winch have synthetic rope or steel cable?

That's an important question! Because the single-piece pulley rings are only for synthetic rope, for steel cable you need a traditional pulley with a roller.
I prefer the single-piece rings like the Factor-55 one linked above for use with my synthetic winch line, because they're simpler, lighter, and smaller. But it's not an option if you've got steel cable.

 

[Flip]

Does your winch have synthetic rope or steel cable?

Synthetic

 

[Flip]

I do not use or recommend any generic knock-off equipment for winching and recovery.

The tension loads this equipment is under means that when they fail, people may be killed.

When you purchase Factor55, ARB, Warn, etc, you are paying for proper engineering, high-quality materials, manufacturing techniques, and regular destructive and non-destructive testing and certification.

When you purchase from amazon or aliexpress, you get a pretty picture of something that may look like the thing you need, but who knows what material it is made from, whether it has the required strength and deformation properties, and if it is manufactured properly. It is certainly not tested and certified to the same standards.

I regularly purchase plastic bits and bobs from amazon to put on my Jeep, but I do not use them life-critical situations.

People may be killed: this is why I asked before I purchased. Thank you

How about this one?
https://www.extremeterrain.com/arb-ultra-lite-snatch10100020.html

 

[Headbarcode]

That's an important question! Because the single-piece pulley rings are only for synthetic rope, for steel cable you need a traditional pulley with a roller.
I prefer the single-piece rings like the Factor-55 one linked above for use with my synthetic winch line, because they're simpler, lighter, and smaller. But it's not an option if you've got steel cable.

On all counts...

One could get away with using a snatchblock pulley with synthetic, but if the line slacks, the rope could potentially get pinched and damaged in between the pulley and body.

The Factor55 snatch ring is my go-to with my synthetic winch line.

Worth noting in regards to rings: best to stay away from the brands that cut their pulleys to a v-groove, because it will continually pinch the round line and create extra heat.

 

[Flip]

On all counts...

One could get away with using a snatchblock pulley with synthetic, but if the line slacks, the rope could potentially get pinched and damaged in between the pulley and body.

The Factor55 snatch ring is my go-to with my synthetic winch line.

Worth noting in regards to rings: best to stay away from the brands that cut their pulleys to a v-groove, because it will continually pinch the round line and create extra heat.

The video for this ARB pulley says the tapered design prevents pinching. I've never used one.

https://www.extremeterrain.com/arb-ultra-lite-snatch10100020.html

 

[Flip]

I'm normally a steel and pulley/roller kind of guy but if these are the way to go/safer that's fine.

This one?
https://www.morris4x4center.com/fac...m_term=4582627035553625&utm_content=CATCH-ALL

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