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That being said it is always fun to pass a Tesla and pull in front of them to watch the car slow down. :)
You do that to me and I will pass you like you are sitting still and find a nice slow 18 wheeler to shadow for the next 30 miles.
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Okay well we obviously have different views personally after owning vehicles with the safety features I would never buy a new one without them.

The automatic braking and lane assist and other features have saved lives and hopefully sooner than later will become standard in all vehicles.
All vehicles will be mandated to have the automatic braking in 2023
 

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Jeeps that have the adaptive cruise control STILL have the traditional cruise control
 

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Jeeps that have the adaptive cruise control STILL have the traditional cruise control
I would actually like to see something like BlueCruise from Ford or GM SuperCruise develop into a system that we didn’t have to babysit on the freeway.
 

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Looking to order a two-door probably a Rubicon at this point and wondering if for 2022 both of the safety groups that are currently optional will become standard?
I have both safety groups and like them. That said, this will fall under there's no such thing as a free lunch. FCA will raise the base prices to cover any options that are made standard.
 

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I try to avoid "those parts"... If you maintain safe distance and pay attention you shouldn't need electronic intervention.

So let's condone crappy drivers guys, and give them electronic crutches instead of just letting the natural consequences of being a bad driver be the teacher? Guess that is the way of the world anymore...
I was waiting for someone to mention the Just Pay Attention strategy for safer driving. :)
 

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It’s all part of the gimmie or give me everything free. They do not want to do anything. Self driving cars, help me walk, help me eat, help me sleep it’s your fault not mine. Pretty soon they will be fat little blobs and will die in place.
 

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I hope not but it is certainly possible. Those systems are the devil, order soon to avoid them and the forced electric power. The only way to avoid the e-torque now is to get the manual, which I did.
Is the 2.0 etorque? I didn’t think it was this year
 

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I almost ordered the advanced safety features in my most recent wrangler, bought ended up buying just the basic safety package. Given that the backup camera and ParkSense sensors stopped working after only 300 miles, I personally would have trust issues with Adaptive Cruise Control if and when it were ever on my Jeep. Pressing the fuses down hard is not a viable solution when I'm traveling 60 mph and traffic is suddenly 0.
Exactly the same thing people said with abs “I don’t trust a computer to control my brakes”. Even if you have it, you don’t have to use it. Even if you use it, you should be paying attention. Even if it’s on, you are free to brake or accelerating at will. I use the hell out of ours, and find myself either tapping the accelerator or changing lanes to insure it doesn’t brake more often than necessary I’ve never worried about it not braking.
 
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Holy Hell, back on topic. If it isn't 2022 it will be 2023 they are added. These systems make the road safer for everyone as a sum. I would rather the car behind me stop, regardless of the driver’s skill, than run into my family.

For those of you with 10 millisecond reaction times and four feet you can just leave it off....
 

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I have no issues with safety features; my trust issues are with Jeep's ability to execute on them - sorry I was not more clear in my original post. I have put almost 300K miles on an RX400h and haven't had one single mechanical or software issue - ABS, ESC, adaptive beams, pedestrian detection, etc. Not one problem. Same for my wife's XC60, though that is newer. But I spent an equivalent amount of money for a wrangler, and I couldn't get 300 miles on the odometer without the safety options failing on me. I'd be OK if it were a fussy remote start system, or if the NAV / XM went on the fritz, but for driver safety features to fail so soon?
I agree that build quality can be an issue, although we haven’t had an issue from any of our safety features in 30k miles so far. Sometimes you just get bad components, my brand new S21 had a power button failure 3 days in having never been dropped, wet, exposed to heat or cold, or anything I’ve had other Samsung phones take in stride for years. The replacement has been trouble free for months.
 
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Agree. Comes to safety, give me more.


I have both safety groups and like them. That said, this will fall under there's no such thing as a free lunch. FCA will raise the base prices to cover any options that are made standard.
 

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Agree. Comes to safety, give me more.
30 years ago I thought that I could modulate the brake pedal better than the anti-lock braking system - I learned better. Other than full autonomous driving, which isn't there yet, computers "drive" better than humans. My front/side/rear safety systems have all sounded off, and never with a false alarm.

Want to feel unsafe, drive a 1960's car with no anti-locks, no shoulder belts, no airbags, and no crush zones. They didn't seem risky at the time, but they give me a shudder now.
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