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well, I for one would want any possible safety feature available to me during rushhour in Ridgway... there's tens of cars on the road, TENS!
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I'm just going to say this, then I'm not going to bother.
It's a well established fact that humans are never infallibly 100% attentive, whether you have learned how to drive or not. That includes you and it's best to put hubris aside and accept that fact. Safety features are tools that interject whenever a possible lack of attention occurs. Every one of them can be easily anticipated and overridden by an attentive driver. Failure to do so means you are a momentarily inattentive driver and they interject. They are not something to fight, they are tools to work with.

Case in point, my ACC occasionally picks up cyclists in the bike lane and will slow the Jeep to not rear end them. But I know this and I know how the tool works. So when I'm approaching a cyclist with ACC active, I acknowledge their existence with a slight press of the accelerator to inform my Jeep that "I see it, we're good". But were I inattentive and didn't notice the cyclist (which has yet to happen) it's a darn good thing that my Jeep will slow down and not hit them, bringing me back to attention. Because you only need to fail once for terrible things to happen.

Just learning how to drive is not enough. You are human and are never 100% attentive.
Just learn how to use your safety tools.
It is foolish to suggest that you can override the safety system quickly enough when something happens suddenly. Pretty sure you would support this given you lack of human attentiveness argument. Funny how that works for you and against you...
 

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well, I for one would want any possible safety feature available to me during rushhour in Ridgway... there's tens of cars on the road, TENS!
So come on down. I am selling that VW chock full of safety features you so adore. It is well insured so you engage all the safety features and see if you can make it from Ouray to Durango over the passes alive. I can't even get it from Ridgway to Montrose on a straight flat highway without having an unintended, and unnecessary, braking incident.
 

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I know right? Ive been thinking about cutting the seatbelts off my Jeep. I think it is a device the government put there to lock us in electronically if they need to, specially with Biden in power.

People didnt have seatbelts before. Seatbelts are no replacement for safe driving.
Nice to see you coming around... So much truth right there. The difference being a seatbelt never wrested control from a driver.
 

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So come on down. I am selling that VW chock full of safety features you so adore. It is well insured so you engage all the safety features and see if you can make it from Ouray to Durango over the passes alive. I can't even get it from Ridgway to Montrose on a straight flat highway without having an unintended, and unnecessary, braking incident.
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These "safety" features have been added because human drivers don't take responsibility for their actions. I don't know how many times over the last few years I would have been broadsided if I wasn't paying attention because another driver was more interested in their cell phone than paying attention to that fact that they are driving a 4,000 or 5,000 pound weapon.

When it is made clear to humans that they are responsible for their actions maybe the cost of vehicles will stop going up to protect the rest of us.
 

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I think that Mtn is describing the fact that these systems are reactive rather than anticipatory. They are helpful in cases of distraction but can be dangerous due to false alerts given their current limitations. Nothing is all good or all bad, it’s just gradations of improvements. Seatbelts are less desirable in side impact collisions but overall, have enhanced vehicle safety tremendously.
 

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Looking to order a two-door probably a Rubicon at this point and wondering if for 2022 both of the safety groups that are currently optional will become standard?
God I hope not. Some of us prefer to drive rather than phone.
 

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Auto braking becomes federally mandated at the end of 22 for 23 model year. I special ordered my Rubicon two door with everything except for safety equipment. I do not want the box on the windshield I don’t want sensors in the bumpers. On a vehicle like a jeep those are just things to break and go wrong later on. On a luxury car yes on a jeep no !
 

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Auto braking becomes federally mandated at the end of 22 for 23 model year. I special ordered my Rubicon two door with everything except for safety equipment. I do not want the box on the windshield I don’t want sensors in the bumpers. On a vehicle like a jeep those are just things to break and go wrong later on. On a luxury car yes on a jeep no !
If that’s the case, keeping my Jeep for a long, long time.
 

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I swear every time when there is some advance in technology, people will always hold on to the old ones.

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I’m thinking 360 camera with u connect 5 for 2022. Brancos have as an option. Makes sense to me.
 
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