Question about lifts and large tires

[Ear Responsible]

So I’m a relatively new member to the forum. I have recently purchased a 2025 Rubicon extreme with 35 inch tires and the small stock factory lift. In reading some of the posts a newbie would get the impression many members feel higher lifts and bigger tires are an upgrade goal. I realize for water/ mud and pure rock crawling it makes sense but isn’t there a point of diminishing returns ? When I do the physics I’m seeing that with a higher vehicle there is a significant downside when navigating off camber trails or steep slippery descents especially in some of the trails I plan on navigating in Colorado. Even one or two extra degrees of diminished roll angle can make things hairy when navigating an off camber trail where there is a dangerous drop off. Pitch not affected as much .

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[Sparty]

There's a fine balance between ground clearance and low CG. It's up to how you wheel and what you do in order to properly define that

 

[The Chubbernaut]

35" tires and a 2-2.5" lift is my end goal. I don't personally see any point in going more than that unless you're building something for a specific purpose.

 

[Ratbert]

Are you thinking you have the gonads to push it to the point where it'd roll on 37s, but not on 35s? The limits of my rig's roll angle on 37s are well above the diameter of my gonads.

 

[zouch]

my goal for lift is only to clear bigger tires, since bigger tires roll over stuff easier, and get the difs a little higher off the ground. that's accomplished with just a couple/few inches of lift above stock, and with minimal impact on CoG.

but some people (including some here) seem to think lift itself is the goal, since this is Amerika, and More = Better.

 

[RubiSc0tt]

Are you thinking you have the gonads to push it to the point where it'd roll on 37s, but not on 35s? The limits of my rig's roll angle on 37s are well above the diameter of my gonads.

This. These Jeeps (especially the 4 doors, with longer wheel base and wider track width than the previous gen Jeeps), I feel like the average user will run out of gonads/ capability of the Jeep before you run out of talent (Read: You get into a sticky situation)- Unless you're a rookie and heading out with a novice group to places like Hell's Revenge, in Moab or something that's way over your head and you don't have the self preservation instinct to think twice about it.

I came from TJ's on 33's. Even with a TJ on a 3.5" long arm kit and 4 link rear, it was nowhere near as stable on Northeastern US Forest rock crawling trails (6+/10 ratings) with big boulders, trees, and greasy Hill climbs as my JLUR on a 2.5" lift and 37" tires. Really, if you're looking at the difference between 35's and 37's as a big difference and worried about diminishing returns- you're probably fine where you are; as you gain experience and a better feel for your vehicle and the trails you frequent, you also start to see the benefits of a larger tire/ more lift. The days of 10" lift on a CJ7 to fit 44" boggers and having it be crazy unstable are kinda gone. There are plenty of JLUR's I see (even on these forums) running 42" tires and driving to the trails.

 

[Jeep Wick]

So I’m a relatively new member to the forum. I have recently purchased a 2025 Rubicon extreme with 35 inch tires and the small stock factory lift. In reading some of the posts a newbie would get the impression many members feel higher lifts and bigger tires are an upgrade goal. I realize for water/ mud and pure rock crawling it makes sense but isn’t there a point of diminishing returns ? When I do the physics I’m seeing that with a higher vehicle there is a significant downside when navigating off camber trails or steep slippery descents especially in some of the trails I plan on navigating in Colorado. Even one or two extra degrees of diminished roll angle can make things hairy when navigating an off camber trail where there is a dangerous drop off. Pitch not affected as much .

I had a 'regular' Rubicon on 33's and to be honest never felt the need for a lift or larger tires. Been to Windrock a couple times. Your use may vary, but I would try it as is and go from there.

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