Pulled over for no doors

[rockadile]

OP just lives in the wrong part of PA...filthadelphia area . lol

There's a local township cop here that I've seen park his naked TJ at work/cop shop. That tells ya something about how different this state can be pending on the area you live in.

And lots of tires way out past fenders here too .

Uh...no. OP is from Pittsburgh which appears to be your neck of the woods.

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[TheDirtyDangla]

I believe PA was 55mph or under for no doors, two side mirrors required. I just went 70mph down 222 in Lancaster last week with no issues whatsoever

 

[LancJeepGuy]

I also live in PA, plenty of people riding with no doors. So can they stop and ticket you for no top as well?

 

[GreyFox]

I skimmed the Ohio Revised Code very briefly and I did not see anything about doors being required. Maybe they can catch you under the occupant restraining device law, but that seems very focused on seat belts. Also; it only specifies a mirror, not necessarily a rear view (as in the center mounted) mirror. So if you somehow lost your rearview mirror, a single side mirror would be fine.

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4513

I live in Ohio. We can drive with our doors off and window down as long as we have eye protection, seatbelt fastened, and a functioning mirror

 

[Squints]

Looks like it got a little traction this year. The bill number changed.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdoc...y.cfm?syear=2019&sind=0&body=H&type=B&bn=1240

 

[TheDirtyDangla]

Looks like it got a little traction this year. The bill number changed.

https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdoc...y.cfm?syear=2019&sind=0&body=H&type=B&bn=1240

Okay I thought 55mph was right!

 

[ALRUI]

Get some half doors

Also sounds like he wishes he had a Jeep! Took out his jealousy with his anger toward you haha

Sounds like a pr*ck who only understands law "enforcement" & not "policing". Big difference!

 

[DaltonGang]

For all you cop haters: Bite Me!!

Not, back to the subject at hand. If the law says doors, then put doors on, or run the risk of a ticket. If ticketed, plead ignorance and throw yourself on the mercy of the court. Might work, might not.
Just like all silly laws, it all depends on how your attitude is, when pulled over, and how hard up the 1 horse town is in need of revenue.

 

[Ma$$iveDebtAche]

If I want to take my life into my own hands and ride my bike without a helmet, that should be my prerogative. Same thing with my JLU doors.

 

[Firemadz]

For all you cop haters: Bite Me!!

Not, back to the subject at hand. If the law says doors, then put doors on, or run the risk of a ticket. If ticketed, plead ignorance and throw yourself on the mercy of the court. Might work, might not.
Just like all silly laws, it all depends on how your attitude is, when pulled over, and how hard up the 1 horse town is in need of revenue.

OR, the cop can use his discretion and choose not to enforce ignorant laws. It happens all the time. There’s plenty of actual crime out there that cops can focus on, instead of just revenue generation.

 

[Artvandelay]

Very odd, they care if you have doors off your jeep but they allow motorcycle riders to ride with no helmet. Any angle you look at from any perspective it’s hard to wrap your head around that decision. I seriously can’t even think of a far-fetched reason for someone to have made a law where no helmet is ok. So backwards. Unreal.

 

[Kluk Ztopolovky]

I'm 8th generation New Englander and a Native Massachusetts born resident ..

I fled that nanny state as fast as I could. Between restrictions, taxes etc it's turning into NYC east.

Cradle of liberty my ass ...

I moved to NH 27 years ago

No Income tax
No Sales Tax
No Seatbelt law
No Helmet law
No Mandatory car insurance
No mandatory Health insurance
No LTC needed to conceal carry

Everything listed is in effect in Massachusetts.... there's a reason they call it the "commonwealth"

Good - Long Live The Sons Of Liberty

 

[ads75]

OP just lives in the wrong part of PA...filthadelphia area . lol

There's a local township cop here that I've seen park his naked TJ at work/cop shop. That tells ya something about how different this state can be pending on the area you live in.

And lots of tires way out past fenders here too .

Pittsburgh and Philadelphia are pretty far apart, almost 5 hours. OP lists as being from Pittsburgh, not Philadelphia.

 

[Shenanigans]

OR, the cop can use his discretion and choose not to enforce ignorant laws. It happens all the time. There’s plenty of actual crime out there that cops can focus on, instead of just revenue generation.

I’m a jeeper, and a cop. I don’t create laws. I only enforce them. Vehicle code violations were all created with public safety in mind.

Having my best friend killed in a collision at 18 years old has given me a huge focus on public safety in regards to vehicles. His friend crossed over a double yellow to pass and hit an off duty police officer head on killing my friend and the police officer who was a husband and father of an infant. A huge loss of life and it could have been avoided.

I will never let a dangerous driver off the hook. Sometimes violations are made unintentionally and it’s my duty to remedy that issue and make the roadway a safer place for them and other motorists, cyclists, and pedestrians. Sometimes a little kind and professional education is enough to change their behavior. Sometimes a written citation is needed. Discretion needs to be used appropriately.

Now with that being said, the “hard ass” officer that was such a hard ass he didn’t cite you btw, may have just been to a horrific collision where someone without doors suffered major injuries or worse. Who knows?

The one thing we do know now is that you committed a violation and it sounds like an officer probably educated you and felt that was enough. Be happy he or she used their discretion and quit complaining about laws. You didn’t write them and neither did the police officer that stopped you.

Statistics overwhelmingly support the fact that if an American is going to die early, it’s most likely going to be in an automobile.

I don't see a dime of the fines imposed from my citations and if I review the fines, it’s a minimal amount going to my agency. The fine is a reason for someone to change their behavior.


Maybe, just maybe, you will realize that he or she may have had your safety in mind when they stopped you and educated you.

 

[mwilk012]

Cops don’t make the laws, and the last thing we need as a society is selective enforcement of the law. Don’t like the law? Get involved in your local elections, or petition your state representative.

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