Prepared to Surrender My Man Card

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I've posted about my frustration with the 2022 3 pedal Rubicon I purchased used, only to discover the clutch recall. After speaking at length with Jeep customer service and learning that there is no ETA on a fix, and when there is, the large volume of vehicles involved, along with supply chain issues, may delay my fix for at least another year once Jeep has a solution.

I looked into an after market clutch, and for $3k I can solve the issue but will lose my power train warranty (motor included). Also, based on the way recall 19A is written, my insurance company won't insure it if there is a fire and they won't consider anything but a Jeep authorized fix. However, more importantly, the big boss, who keeps my balls in the freezer for special occasions, refuses to ride in it, or drive it.

So all things considered, I traded the 2022 today for a brand new 2024 Rubicon with the 8 speed auto. I have to say that the 2024 rides much smoother than my 2022 (both stock). Plus I've become a big fan of the 8 speed auto in my wife's Gladiator. It's an awesome transmission in my opinion along with everthing I've read about it. In addition, there are other bells and whistles on the new 2024 that are pretty cool.

So all that said, I hang my head in shame to have moved to the dark side and I'm fully prepared to surrender my man card for giving up on 3 pedaling that 2022.

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[2nd 392]

Everyone has their limit when

man card intact — - not Bud Light

 

[2019JLUS]

Psh thought you got a powered soft top

 

[dsgrey]

Will the Jeep dealer sit on your old Jeep for a year until the clutch can be fixed or will they sell it without saying anything to the new buyer? I suspect the latter.

 

[lowmpg]

Manual huh, do you want your motor carbureted as well?

I can say I’m glad I never considered the 6spd Rubicon. The auto is superior in literally every way.

…braces…for..attack.

 

[maestro5531]

If I over analyzed everything in life, I would never leave my bed, even then I could suffocate. Stelantis is slow with the recall but I call BS on loosing entire powertrain warranty by going aftermarket. How many fires of JLs were there? 5? 10? Bet I have a higher chance of winning lottery than the Jeep catching on fire.

 

[Kracka]

I used to be a diehard manual transmission only sports car guy... Then got with the times and embraced the superior technology available. Zero chance I'd ever consider a manual transmission Jeep with how good the 8-speed AT is. It's not like the 6-speed box is or ever was anything special... Vague pedal, sloppy shifter, etc.

 

[roaniecowpony]

When I started driving in the early 70s, there was an advantage to driving a manual. They got better mileage and had a clear advantage in acceleration. All my cars were manual transmissions for many years. Today, many of the performance cars are quicker with an auto and get better mileage. For the jeep, it was supposed to be a dog hauler to get to hunting spots. So, I got the auto. Years later, I turned into a rock crawler and the auto is very much at home in the rocks.

 

[rbrn]

I thought that the manual JL was too easy to shift. I'm not exactly sure how to explain it, but it felt like "apply clutch, change gear, release clutch" without any finesse required. It didn't give me the "feel" that I missed from decades of driving a manual.

 

[RockAltered]

OK

 

[LARSONEM]

I wouldn’t worry too much about it. Chew on the crow and move on. My first Jeep a 1997 TJ had a manual transmission exactly as I wanted. I moved to a 2012 Rubicon JK and it had to have a manual transmission. Fast forward to 2022 when I ordered not only a 4 door but an automatic transmission on my new Rubicon. I always said real Jeeps have 3 pedals on the floor. Not true anymore. I really have enjoyed the 8 speed automatic. It’s the way to go.

 

[siggy]

Just picked up my manual ‘24 2 door Willys. Love it! Just two things I’ll add. Automatics have been “better” than manuals for decades. They shift faster, better, yada, yada. Second, how people continue to be so naive to how warranties work continues to astonish me.

 

[Windshieldfarmer]

The auto is vastly superior to the manual. No need for OP to trade in his man card for making a smart decision. Perhaps there are some insecurities?

 

[roaniecowpony]

Just picked up my manual ‘24 2 door Willys. Love it! Just two things I’ll add. Automatics have been “better” than manuals for decades. They shift faster, better, yada, yada. Second, how people continue to be so naive to how warranties work continues to astonish me.

The way a warranty works in real life, is that the dealer decides what's covered and whether to indicate in their records that the buyer violated the terms of the warranty. The buyer is left with dealing with this decision and whether to challenge the dealer's decision further. Moss-Magnusson says a lot of good things. But the dealer gets the first word. The majority of the people that disagree (and may be right) don't do anything further. Dealers/manufacturer's/underwriter's win.

 

[cosmokenney]

I don't know guys. I have an auto because I heard so many good things about the 8 speed. And it is okay on road. But off road, it puts itself in 5th gear at 17-20 MPH for example. Then it resists downshifting until its about to stall. I'll be going 4 MPH in 3rd gear for a long time then it hits 2nd and never gets to 1st. If I leave it in Drive on downhills and completely let off the gas at about 5 MPH expecting engine braking, it upshifts and I end up accelerating when I really wanted to just stay in 1st or 2nd and go down the hill in a controlled way without loosing traction by applying too much brakes.

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