Pre-2024 Crush Caps Compatibility

[hoodie]

The 2024 crush caps (if that’s what they’re called) stick out a lot farther than the pre-2024 versions. Can anyone confirm if the pre-2024 would be compatible with the 2024 metal bumper? Picture with the item in question in green. Thanks for the help.

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[rivercrossing]

They only stick out more if you have the winch.
If you have the metal bumper with no winch they are the same as the old one not sticking out any more.

 

[Mike_Hawk]

Yes, the pokies cups can be swapped out for the non-pokies cups

 

[hoodie]

They only stick out more if you have the winch.
If you have the metal bumper with no winch they are the same as the old one not sticking out any more.

Good to know. Thank you.
Can anyone confirm if these are the non winch version? https://www.quadratec.com/p/crown-a...p-bezel-wrangler-jl-gladiator-jt-steel-bumper

 

[hoodie]

Yes, the pokies cups can be swapped out for the non-pokies cups

Love the descriptors.

 

[Jad4275]

Good to know. Thank you.
Can anyone confirm if these are the non winch version? https://www.quadratec.com/p/crown-a...p-bezel-wrangler-jl-gladiator-jt-steel-bumper

That’s just the bezel and not the cans or cover. The longer cans with the winch are for crash test ratings.

Try Benny@allmoparparts for the right part numbers.

 

[Mike_Hawk]

I was about to send that exact link! They do look to be the pre-extension version of those pieces, the reviews are from before 2024. Good luck on the reduction!

EDIT: This might help clear things up Jeep Wrangler JL Front Modular Steel Bumper Parts | Quadratec

 

[Mike_Hawk]

Official Mopar if you want to spend x3 the cost for OEM: Mopar Front Fog Lamp Bezel for 18-21 Jeep Wrangler JL & Gladiator JT with Steel Bumper for Driver Side on 18-24 Jeep Wrangler JL and Gladiator JT | Quadratec

 

[jax501]

This forum member has a DIY video on how to swap out the pokies on 2024 winch bumpers:

 

[YBABRAT]

2024 happens to be an anniversary of the big pokie production from AMC... the original Jeep people.

Here is 1973...

Here is 1974

 

[Pareto Offroad]

Is this there some legal requirement to have crush cans?I can only assume they do next to nothing with respect to allowing a greater crumple zone. Maybe the airbag sensor can detect their “crush” and this added millisecond helps with the airbags?

I’d be nervous cutting this off without knowing for sure.

 

[hoodie]

Is this there some legal requirement to have crush cans?I can only assume they do next to nothing with respect to allowing a greater crumple zone. Maybe the airbag sensor can detect their “crush” and this added millisecond helps with the airbags?

I’d be nervous cutting this off without knowing for sure.

I have the same concerns with the airbags. What does trigger those? The forum member in the video didn’t experience any trouble. But still …

 

[Pareto Offroad]

I have the same concerns with the airbags. What does trigger those? The forum member in the video didn’t experience any trouble. But still …

Did he get in a head on wreck to test?

I believe the airbags are triggered on a G sensor. So, it’s possible the crash can could have some influence. Is it material or not? I dunno.

 

[2nd 392]

I have the same concerns with the airbags. What does trigger those? The forum member in the video didn’t experience any trouble. But still …

Perhaps as previously mentioned it’s for the crash test, and they are to extend a minimum distance from the furthest point of the vehicle, now the winch clip.. Measure the distance from the furthest point, even if it’s the clip’s bolt to the leading edge of the Dolly Parton Crash Cans, then measure one without them. Or, just change them (I would), everything has it’s place,
for DD cups, it isn’t a Jeep

 

[Mike_Hawk]

Is this there some legal requirement to have crush cans?I can only assume they do next to nothing with respect to allowing a greater crumple zone. Maybe the airbag sensor can detect their “crush” and this added millisecond helps with the airbags?

I’d be nervous cutting this off without knowing for sure.

I'm no expert on this, but I think it's more "legal theater" than anything. Legally there is probably some issue with selling a vehicle where a "component" like the fairleed or shackle mount protrudes further than the bumper from the factory. The solution? Make the bumper bigger, even if it's just plastic (which most bumpers are anyway)

Check out the Bugatti Chiron. It has something similar with needing bolt on rubber pads to "increase bumper surface area" or some BS for US regulations. I tried finding a video of them, but they're effectively rubber pads that come attached to the rear bumper from the factory... which are promptly removed by the dealership upon receipt of the vehicle...

Edit: legally you can do a ton of modifications that can't be sold as factory standard equipment. A Safari JXL extension is legal to add to your Jeep, but would NEVER be a factory option.

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