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I know you don't by a Wrangler for good gas mileage, but could he really only be getting 8 mpg on this JLUR XR?
"though I'm barely getting 8 mpg in mixed use, which is a little disappointing, though not surprising."​

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2021-jeep-wrangler-xtreme-recon-package-review/
I was getting 6mph locally on my 392 XR before it ended up in service. Check tires because the over inflation from the factory was causing uneven tread wear.
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I know you don't by a Wrangler for good gas mileage, but could he really only be getting 8 mpg on this JLUR XR?
"though I'm barely getting 8 mpg in mixed use, which is a little disappointing, though not surprising."​

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2021-jeep-wrangler-xtreme-recon-package-review/
He must be doing lots of fast takeoffs. Based on the photos in the article, it looks like he has the 3.6L etorque version of the Xtreme Recon package, since the sarge green Rubicon doesn't have the 392 intake buldge on the hood. I've only had my XR 3.6L for 3 days at this point (with about 88 miles) but my average MPG, according to the car is around 16. I've been resisting the urge to accelerate hard until I've put more miles on it. I'm hoping that my fuel economy will improve a bit once break in is over. One thing that the writer doesn't mention is the availability of the XR package on the 2022 Willys. Thanks for posting a link to the article.
 

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I was getting 6mph locally on my 392 XR before it ended up in service. Check tires because the over inflation from the factory was causing uneven tread wear.
Airing down to 37 was the first thing that I did as soon as I drove off of the dealer lot. This made a world of difference in the ride quality. It's strange that they all seem to come from the factory at around 45psi when the door sticker clearly indicates a recommended 37psi for front, rear and spare. Does anybody have any ideas why they do this?
 

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Airing down to 37 was the first thing that I did as soon as I drove off of the dealer lot. This made a world of difference in the ride quality. It's strange that they all seem to come from the factory at around 45psi when the door sticker clearly indicates a recommended 37psi for front, rear and spare. Does anybody have any ideas why they do this?
Lower the pressure even more. I am running at 34 now and it is much better than 37. Factory does fills expecting vehicles to sit on lots and don't want the pressure to drop too much. Dealers should have air pressure as part of their PDI though.

Glad you had such a good experience with Craig at Koons. They really do a great job on delivery and getting you out the door quickly and on your way.

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Lower the pressure even more. I am running at 34 now and it is much better than 37. Factory does fills expecting vehicles to sit on lots and don't want the pressure to drop too much. Dealers should have air pressure as part of their PDI though.

Glad you had such a good experience with Craig at Koons. They really do a great job on delivery and getting you out the door quickly and on your way.

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Thanks... I'll try 34psi. You were right about Craig at Koons. I was amazed at how well organized he is. When I mentioned the issue that many people here on the forum, have with loose fuses, he said that he checks on the fuses during each delivery, and points out the location of the fuses to new owners. I didn't consider vehicles sitting on dealer lots (and possibly loosing pressure over time) as a reason for the higher presser...this explanation definitely makes sense.
 

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He must be doing lots of fast takeoffs. Based on the photos in the article, it looks like he has the 3.6L etorque version of the Xtreme Recon package, since the sarge green Rubicon doesn't have the 392 intake buldge on the hood. I've only had my XR 3.6L for 3 days at this point (with about 88 miles) but my average MPG, according to the car is around 16. I've been resisting the urge to accelerate hard until I've put more miles on it. I'm hoping that my fuel economy will improve a bit once break in is over. One thing that the writer doesn't mention is the availability of the XR package on the 2022 Willys. Thanks for posting a link to the article.
Yup, thanks and no problem on sharing - yes, he has the 3.6L etorque in this review. That is why the 8mpg was even harder to believe. If it was the 392XR and really hitting it hard, I'd not even question the 8mpg.
 

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I have been notified that after the Jeep engineers have gone thru every inch of wiring with the service foreman at dealership, replacement of transfer valve body is next step. Part is on back order from European supplier and expected to be available in December…. My brand new 392 XR with 67 miles on it will likely sit in service untouched until then. 11/18/2021 will be exactly 1 year since I placed original 392 order and FCA/Stellantis has still not been able to deliver a drivable 392 to me. Less than 2 weeks out from latest 392 being in service for over 30 days…. ??

IMPORTANT QUESTION TO EVERYONE: If the problem is indeed the transfer valve body, I noticed there are aftermarket performance upgrades for this specific part. If it can cut down on the back order waiting time and Stellantis is willing to install and reimburse, is this a specific part that is worth upgrading?

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I really, really hate to hear this and feel your pain as I have been through 2 lemon law cases in my lifetime, one with a Jeep and another with a Ram. My 392XR is now in paint, and should arrive by the end of next month if the stars align. However, I ordered way back on 6/24 and have been waiting so long that the excitement has worn off quite a bit. Even hearing that my rig was finally in paint didn't give me the thrill that I had hoped for. Then, I read your story and how this is happening AGAIN to you doesn't instill a lot of confidence. Jeep's have never really been known as well built vehicles, but we love them and have learned to live with average to below average build quality for decades. Then, you add covid to the mix with assembly plant workers that are overworked, underpaid, and disgruntled. That is a recipe for disaster and could explain your and many other new Jeep owners issues. Admittedly, I am scared to death now to drop $84k on my 392XR. I can't expect Lexus build quality, but are we buying these rigs at the wrong time? Regardless, I hope some good luck comes your way soon and FCA, Stellantis, or whoever in the hell they are called these days steps up and does the right thing after what you've been through.

Edit: I served my country honorably for 12 years, and on this veterans day it *isses me off when I hear another fellow forum member and American spend hard earned money on a product that unfortunately is owned by a non-American company and is going through issues with the 2nd consecutive identical product. Why isn't the build quality better controlled? Why isn't the quality control better supervised? Why in the hell are painfully obvious defects making it's way passed inspections and multiple eyes? It's because Stellantis allows it! They are headquarted in the Netherlands, and I imagine they have to know the crap that is being produced right now. Why aren't they investing in the employees and paying them more? Why don't they implement strict quality standards in place of the non-existent ones? We pay damn good money, actually over pay for these rigs and are getting sub standard products. Sorry for my rant, but Stellantis if you're listening, please get off your ass and make a better product. This is completely unacceptable. I am sick of living in a country where foreign companies feel that building vehicles with below average build quality is acceptable. I need another beer.
 
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I really, really hate to hear this and feel your pain as I have been through 2 lemon law cases in my lifetime, one with a Jeep and another with a Ram. My 392XR is now in paint, and should arrive by the end of next month if the stars align. However, I ordered way back on 6/24 and have been waiting so long that the excitement has worn off quite a bit. Even hearing that my rig was finally in paint didn't give me the thrill that I had hoped for. Then, I read your story and how this is happening AGAIN to you doesn't instill a lot of confidence. Jeep's have never really been known as well built vehicles, but we love them and have learned to live with average to below average build quality for decades. Then, you add covid to the mix with assembly plant workers that are overworked, underpaid, and disgruntled. That is a recipe for disaster and could explain your and many other new Jeep owners issues. Admittedly, I am scared to death now to drop $84k on my 392XR. I can't expect Lexus build quality, but are we buying these rigs at the wrong time? Regardless, I hope some good luck comes your way soon and FCA, Stellantis, or whoever in the hell they are called these days steps up and does the right thing after what you've been through.

Edit: I served my country honorably for 12 years, and on this veterans day it *isses me off when I hear another fellow forum member and American spend hard earned money on a product that unfortunately is owned by a non-American company and is going through issues with the 2nd consecutive identical product. Why isn't the build quality better controlled? Why isn't the quality control better supervised? Why in the hell are painfully obvious defects making it's way passed inspections and multiple eyes? It's because Stellantis allows it! They are headquarted in the Netherlands, and I imagine they have to know the crap that is being produced right now. Why aren't they investing in the employees and paying them more? Why don't they implement strict quality standards in place of the non-existent ones? We pay damn good money, actually over pay for these rigs and are getting sub standard products. Sorry for my rant, but Stellantis if you're listening, please get off your ass and make a better product. This is completely unacceptable. I am sick of living in a country where foreign companies feel that building vehicles with below average build quality is acceptable. I need another beer.
Thank you for the thoughts, the well wishes and your service. Trust me on one thing,
you will absolutely love the 392XR when it arrives. I guarantee it. Nothing like it out there on the market. Just hoping you are not unlucky like me and some others with any issues. One thing I can tell you is that my case is with the highest level of support possible and they are definitely aware and listening to what is being written on this forum. I made sure of it!!!! ;)

PS - what part of NY are you from?
 

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Got an email from FCA about 10 minutes ago re my ‘21 392 XR — saying it will arrive to the dealership 12/8 (ETA). It says it’s in the validation process — anyone know what that means ?
 

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Got an email from FCA about 10 minutes ago re my ‘21 392 XR — saying it will arrive to the dealership 12/8 (ETA). It says it’s in the validation process — anyone know what that means ?
12 senior members of the assembly team stand around your Jeep and take turns telling the Jeep nice things, and confirming that, yes, it is a real Jeep. I believe this started with the YJ, when people started to question the validity of the wranglers being real Jeeps
 

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Jeep Chat: Thank you so much for holding Bruce. I am showing that your vehicle has been built and is pending installation of additional equipment. This is a necessary step when additional features or optional equipment packages are added to the vehicle. Currently no Dealer ETA has been provided.

Like many I am curious what additional equipment and features I added off to the side of the active, constantly moving trim line?

"G" — trim; awaiting some cool feature to be added

9 November build sheet available at servlet
8 November G trim; with a new VIN and VON
4 November D gathering parts
6 October F paint
25 September D1 gateline
23 August VIN
18 August Ordered VON

Still, we are progressing with the new VIN number. I keep checking the old one to see if a build sheet shows up, but so far no–
 
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12 senior members of the assembly team stand around your Jeep and take turns telling the Jeep nice things, and confirming that, yes, it is a real Jeep. I believe this started with the YJ, when people started to question the validity of the wranglers being real Jeeps
Ha -- I figured it meant my Jeep was built and being reviewed by QC.

I checked this morning, and Bingo! My 392 XR has been built. No window sticker yet but I don't think that shows up until it hits shipping stage.

Thank you so much for holding. I am showing that your vehicle has been built and is pending installation of additional equipment. This is a necessary step when additional features or optional equipment packages are added to the vehicle. Currently no Dealer ETA has been provided.
 

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Ha -- I figured it meant my Jeep was built and being reviewed by QC.

I checked this morning, and Bingo! My 392 XR has been built. No window sticker yet but I don't think that shows up until it hits shipping stage.

Thank you so much for holding. I am showing that your vehicle has been built and is pending installation of additional equipment. This is a necessary step when additional features or optional equipment packages are added to the vehicle. Currently no Dealer ETA has been provided.
I believe my XR 3.6 sat in that stage for about a week before finally getting a window sticker and an estimated delivery date to the dealership. Things seem to be slowing down a tad since then, but if I had to guess I think you’ll see your jeep in 3-4 weeks barring any chaos
 

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Ha -- I figured it meant my Jeep was built and being reviewed by QC.

I checked this morning, and Bingo! My 392 XR has been built. No window sticker yet but I don't think that shows up until it hits shipping stage.

Thank you so much for holding. I am showing that your vehicle has been built and is pending installation of additional equipment. This is a necessary step when additional features or optional equipment packages are added to the vehicle. Currently no Dealer ETA has been provided.
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