jayvis
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With all of the bitching about bad quality on this site, I'm surprised anyone cares. Quality could end up being better in Mexico.Fingers crossed all the FCA and Ford workers work out a good deal without a strike.
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With all of the bitching about bad quality on this site, I'm surprised anyone cares. Quality could end up being better in Mexico.Fingers crossed all the FCA and Ford workers work out a good deal without a strike.
Not necessarily true. Once GM settles it sets the frame work for the other 2. Management will almost never try to deviate from what the strike affected co contract is. They know it’s a losing and costly battle.All we have been told is indefinitely.
What probably will happen is, once GM has a contract, either Ford or FCA will go next. When it's our turn and they will offer us a new contract, if we the union doesn't like it they will either keep negotiations open or go on strike. If the union likes what FCA has offered us, than they bring it to the membership to vote on. If the membership votes it down, they can either continue working with the old contract or strike, depending on how far apart we are on the negotiations
Shouldn't that be "what are English?" lolWhat is english.
I don't think you can lay this strike at anyone's feet. Yes, the union officials have (always) been corrupt (ever hear of Jimmy Hoffa?) but the executives at GM are just as corrupt and self-serving. As another poster said in this thread, we the taxpayers bailed out GM, and their executives promised to pay it back and stay in the USA, but neither is happening.This is a very interesting article on why the strike got to where it is now and how corrupt many of these UAW leaders are. I feel for the workers as the people they pay dues to represent and fight for them clearly have their own ambitions:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/o...orial-blame-strike-uaw-corruption/2345455001/
Oops, well I take that back good sir.Never heard of Zero Wing?
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I can’t say for sure how it is now, but when I was doing homework looking to buy a 2000 half ton Dodge pickup I came into contact with a senior QC engineer of theirs. Trucks were being built in both Mexico and the US. I expressed concern about getting one built in Mexico (influenced by ignorance and xenophobia) and he laughed. He told me at that time that the ones coming off the line in Mexico were hands down better in almost every quality metric than the ones produced domestically. Union labor at both plants.With all of the bitching about bad quality on this site, I'm surprised anyone cares. Quality could end up being better in Mexico.
Saul GoodmanOops, well I take that back good sir.
Teamsters already told GM that they won't move a single vehicle until the strike is over. That's solidarity.If the strike is prolonged, the haulers might strike in sympathy. That will affect all.
Yes, GM's contract will set the framework. But we didn't get everything that GM and Ford received 4 years ago. And with all the corruption inside the UAW that represents FCA, we want to strike just to see if our union still has the balls and not being paid off by FCA like during the last contract. We're pissed. FCA and the UAW totally screwed us 4 years ago.Not necessarily true. Once GM settles it sets the frame work for the other 2. Management will almost never try to deviate from what the strike affected co contract is. They know it’s a losing and costly battle.
Thanks Maverick. I would normally agree with you. But my local voted over 97% in favor of a strike. I wish I could explain why the membership feels this way, unfortunately FCA monitors everything I post on this forum and right now is not a good time to be " Insubordinate " as they are looking for any reason to fire people. So here is a link to an article posted in our local paper. Feel free to read it and tell me what you think.Fingers crossed all the FCA and Ford workers work out a good deal without a strike.
97% is a great number, helps send the message to the company that you guys mean business and won’t bend over this time as long as the chairs can bring that strength to the table.Thanks Maverick. I would normally agree with you. But my local voted over 97% in favor of a strike. I wish I could explain why the membership feels this way, unfortunately FCA monitors everything I post on this forum and right now is not a good time to be " Insubordinate " as they are looking for any reason to fire people. So here is a link to an article posted in our local paper. Feel free to read it and tell me what you think.
https://www.workers.org/2019/09/04/feds-go-after-uaw-unions-corruption-and-the-capitalist-state/