OffRoad + option.. Is it worth it?

[21JLURDG]

Anything in particular you have learned that it does that seems truely useful?
I typically do not like any "driving modes". I want to control the vehicle myself.
The only one I have used alot and think works very well is A-Trac on my 4Runner.
And it seems the JL has some thing similar to that (using brakes to stop the spinning wheel) and seems that is its own thing, separate from Offroad+

The main thing I read that I thought I might like (that Tazer cant do) is it making the throttle less touchy in 4Lo.
but I guess if its not doing it in a way or at a sensitivity I like, then that useless, since its not adjustable.

I've learned nothing that is not in the manual. You just have to read it like reading a physics textbook and visualize every little thing. One example is throttle dampening you mention. It's designed for crawling over rocks and keeping your bouncing foot from giving uncontrolled power spikes. But when rock crawling and needing a bump over a waterfall, this dampening can be a hindrance just when you stomp the pedal to get wheelspin. The dampening can cause engine stall at critical point--even on a diesel. Don't ask me how I know that. You also need to understand this same button push does completely different things in 4H and 4L.

The system works well. The Jeep engineers did a fantastic job in programming it. Unfortunately, they might have also written the explanation.

You also say you don't like "driving modes." If you don't like to use them, then OR+ & SSC are not for you. I do like them once I learned a little about them. I managed to cross unassisted every obstacle on Pritchett Canyon where some dedicated rock crawlers struggled.

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[JohnTrotto]

I've learned nothing that is not in the manual. You just have to read it like reading a physics textbook and visualize every little thing. One example is throttle dampening you mention. It's designed for crawling over rocks and keeping your bouncing foot from giving uncontrolled power spikes. But when rock crawling and needing a bump over a waterfall, this dampening can be a hindrance just when you stomp the pedal to get wheelspin. The dampening can cause engine stall at critical point--even on a diesel. Don't ask me how I know that. You also need to understand this same button push does completely different things in 4H and 4L.

The system works well. The Jeep engineers did a fantastic job in programming it. Unfortunately, they might have also written the explanation.

You also say you don't like "driving modes." If you don't like to use them, then OR+ & SSC are not for you. I do like them once I learned a little about them. I managed to cross unassisted every obstacle on Pritchett Canyon where some dedicated rock crawlers struggled.

Hmm I was under the impression that the JL's feature where it was applying brake to a spinning wheel, acted like A-Trac on my 4Runner. Where I am doing all the throttle, it simply activates if it detects a wheel spinning, like if one lifts in the air.
It works very well, I dont wheel the 4Runner as hard as I do the Jeep, and it has worked so well that I dont feel the need to put a locker in it. I like that you maintain steering also, vs. a front locker.

But, is seems the JL, only does this while in a SSC mode? where it is basically a slow cruise control and you are not operating the throttle?
The Toyota TRD pros have that mode,,,, HATE it.
Traction aids are one thing,, but I want to drive my vehicle. Not use cruise control on a trail.

To be clear, I am talking about something different than your typical traction control, where its just simply cutting throttle.

 

[Sparty]

If you have a manual transmission it's essential when offroading - otherwise you'll be bogging down in the sand/snow/mud and dead in the water

 

[Ratbert]

If you have a manual transmission it's essential when offroading - otherwise you'll be bogging down in the sand/snow/mud and dead in the water

So all those manual Wranglers built prior to the introduction of OR+ can't go off road?

 

[Sparty]

So all those manual Wranglers built prior to the introduction of OR+ can't go off road?

That's not what I said

 

[Ratbert]

That's not what I said

You said it's essential when off roading. Apparently it's not.

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