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Hi.
Just joined the forum, live in western Canada, love off roading, but always done it in a pickup, dirt bike, or atv.
Wanting to buy a Jeep, most likely a Rubicon.
On the options list are bumpers, winch, and also 4.88 gears. Is it worh getting them instead of buying aftermarket bumpers and winch?
How big of mud tires can I put on without a lift kit?
And should I get the 4.88 gears if i want the bigger tires?
How tall are stock Rubicon tires?

If it makes any difference, I want a 2 door, 3.6 engine, with automatic.
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Stock Rubicon comes with essentially a 33" tire and you can run a 35" tire with no lift or modification. I cant speak to the 3.6 but my 2 Door Rubicon 2.0l on the 4.10s on 35s I have had zero issues with power and dont feel the need to up to a 4.88. If you want to run a 37 getting the factory 4.88s isnt an awful idea.

The stock steel bumpers are pretty nice and being modular you can get a shorty look in the front if you want. As for stock vs aftermarket that is something you have to decide, bumpers are pretty subjective and are mostly a looks thing when you get into the good quality aftermarket ones. They all are going to be plenty strong against rocks, and accept any winch so long as you get a good one.
 

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Heads-up that tires designed to work well in mud typically don't work well in snow. MTs are designed to expel everything ASAP while mud tires are designed to hold stuff in for snow / snow traction.
 

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Strongly suggest you just try your Jeep STOCK before modding Anything. A base stock Jeep, with limited slip and decent tires is pretty darn capable. ARubicon even more so. The lockers on the Rubi are great in mud-not so much driving on the road in Snow. As noted, true “mud” tires typically are Not the hot ticket in snow. You may wind up with two sets of rubber. Way too many folks spend $$ upfront for stuff they truly don’t need and may actually be degrading performance for the way THEY drive. Get your Jeep, drive it for a good bit and then get whatever you’ve found YOU need For the way and places/conditions YOU drive in.
 

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Go for the 4.88 only if you are planning on 37" tires in the near future. Otherwise stick with the 4.10 that base Rubicon comes with. The 4.10 is sufficient for 33"-35" and if you go 39"+ you will want aftermarket axles anyway.
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