Never Buying Another Jeep

[autotragic]

For the number of people that bitch on here about their Jeep there sure are a lot of people that bitch at people that refuse to buy another one.

There are basically two kinds of Jeep owners...Jeep people that understand how the Jeep world works and People that buy Jeeps thinking they are a cooler looking Toyota. The first group likes to make fun of the second group because we always knew that it was never going to work and we tried telling them but they didn't listen and now here we are.

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[Punkn89]

For the number of people that bitch on here about their Jeep there sure are a lot of people that bitch at people that refuse to buy another one.

 

[Robertyoke]

Guy needs to buy a cyber truck because they are bulletproof!

 

[autotragic]

Guy needs to buy a cyber truck because they are bulletproof!

I don't know, I think a Land Rover Defender might be the better option here. Land Rover's are way more reliable.

 

[Robertyoke]

Oh the Cyber truck will break down, it'll leave you stranded when it runs out of juice, it'll leave you stranded when it's updating but you can literally shoot bullets at it. Then we dont have to listen to the tears here on the Forum as he can take us frustration out on his cyber truck.

 

[John VonJeep]

Or buy some Oracle flush mount lights for $400 and take 10 minutes out of your day.
This reminds me, I have a set of OEM LED tail lights in the garage I need to sell for $500 a pop.

Those Oracles are nice. I’m currently fine with the derp lights on my Willys. If I ever break one, though, it’s Oracles for sure.

 

[AC77]

Jeep will
Always be Jeep. They got minor finicky stuff but to own and respect one need to have basic automotive knowledge. Basic ! And don’t follow what dealers or other clowns say. As tech advances. We the public become the lab rats. So learn and move on. Life will be much easier without breaking the bank.

 

[ym0bc1]

wait, you can't even change a tailight by yourself? It's probably $100 to buy the part

 

[Jamrock]

What is your understanding of quality in regards to automotive assembly?

My understanding of quality in automotive assembly is the same as my understanding of quality in other areas of manufacturing.

The manufacturing process should result in a consistent level of quality from one unit to the next. Manufacturing processes usually define a certain amount of defects per volume produced.

In production lines, each process is made up of defined steps which should be repeated with each unit.

My concern with the production of Jeeps is the inconsistent quality of the production. Some members on the forum have had little or no issues with their units. Others have had significant issues with their units.

If the quality was consistently bad, I could understand. If the quality was consistently good, I could understand. I do not understand the inconsistent quality that takes place on the same production line.

As the price of Jeeps increase, consumers will have less and less tolerance for these defects.

 

[autotragic]

If the quality was consistently bad, I could understand. If the quality was consistently good, I could understand. I do not understand the inconsistent quality that takes place on the same production line.

See how much manual labor is still involved, lots of room for errors.

 

[Jamrock]

Manual labor is included in a lot of manufacturing environments. This does not necessarily result in poor quality.

From time to time, the Lite Bright team visits the production environments of companies that make after market products for Jeeps. Many of them are relatively small and have labor intensive production lines. However, they seem to produce goods with a consistent quality.

I don't know what the issue is with the Jeeps. From what I have seen, the painting of the frames is done by robots. However, people complain about corrosion and bad paint jobs.

I don't understand.

 

[AcesandEights]

‘21 Rubicon with 70,000 miles.

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at 57,000 miles, my dash started blinking for the rear diff being engaged although it wasn’t. Again, Jeep knows it a faulty part. The sensor in the diff wasn’t made “water proof” and goes bad sitting all day in diff fluid. The entire rear drive shaft would need to be replaced and again, cost thousands.

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https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/fo...ficially-has-a-fix-repair-kit-released.89460/

 

[autotragic]

Manual labor is included in a lot of manufacturing environments. This does not necessarily result in poor quality.

From time to time, the Lite Bright team visits the production environments of companies that make after market products for Jeeps. Many of them are relatively small and have labor intensive production lines. However, they seem to produce goods with a consistent quality.

I don't know what the issue is with the Jeeps. From what I have seen, the painting of the frames is done by robots. However, people complain about corrosion and bad paint jobs.

I don't understand.

I don't know, I've never been impressed by the QA/QC of mass produced shit. They have to lower the standards to get more shit through and the more expensive it is the lower the standards so they don't have to reject/fix as much. It's why China man can "make the same thing" but for half the price of the US made part. It's cheap because they don't QA/QC anything.

 

[hoganr]

Since we had some problems with the computer in our 1999 ragtop Wrangler I startted looking at newer and older, new and used models.

Finally, I don't like any of them as much as our old Green ragtop.

The new ones are too big and bulky and the old ones are hard to find in good condition.

We will keep driving this one until one of us dies.

 

[631_Islander]

‘21 Rubicon with 70,000 miles.

Rear led parking lamp stopped working. Took it to my local Jeep dealership (Don K Whitefish Montana) and was given the news, “this is happening with more and more Rubicon’s but Jeep won’t fix it since the led is built into the fixture, it can’t be changed like a lightbulb and it will cost you $2,500.71 to buy a new fixture”

at 57,000 miles, my dash started blinking for the rear diff being engaged although it wasn’t. Again, Jeep knows it a faulty part. The sensor in the diff wasn’t made “water proof” and goes bad sitting all day in diff fluid. The entire rear drive shaft would need to be replaced and again, cost thousands.

anytime I drive off a paved road I get warning lights randomly going off on my dash. Come to find out again, this happens all the time and it even has a name among owners, the Christmas Tree of Death.

I was told today at the above dealership that Jeeps are no longer made for serious offroad driving. They did a study and found most never see dirt so they stopped building them for it

The new Jeeps just aren’t worth the price anymore. Switching back to a Toyota when I can afford to.

In the voice of Smoky (Ice Cube) from the movie Friday: "Bye Felicia"

‘21 Rubicon with 70,000 miles.

Rear led parking lamp stopped working. Took it to my local Jeep dealership (Don K Whitefish Montana) and was given the news, “this is happening with more and more Rubicon’s but Jeep won’t fix it since the led is built into the fixture, it can’t be changed like a lightbulb and it will cost you $2,500.71 to buy a new fixture”

at 57,000 miles, my dash started blinking for the rear diff being engaged although it wasn’t. Again, Jeep knows it a faulty part. The sensor in the diff wasn’t made “water proof” and goes bad sitting all day in diff fluid. The entire rear drive shaft would need to be replaced and again, cost thousands.

anytime I drive off a paved road I get warning lights randomly going off on my dash. Come to find out again, this happens all the time and it even has a name among owners, the Christmas Tree of Death.

I was told today at the above dealership that Jeeps are no longer made for serious offroad driving. They did a study and found most never see dirt so they stopped building them for it

The new Jeeps just aren’t worth the price anymore. Switching back to a Toyota when I can afford to.

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