Need help helping wife

[gburchett]

So, her daily commute is about 25-30 one way. Running 70-80mph. She drives a Honda Insight now and I know she won’t get anything close to what she is getting now. She has looked at the RAV4, but she can’t order the one she wants and good luck finding one. I’m want to get an idea of combined MPG, I guess running in hybrid mode, if there is such a thing with the 4xe. So she gets 40-44 on her car, combined. I know the Jeep
Won’t get anything like that, neither will the RAV 4, but that’s kind of what I was looking for. WhT kind of combined mileage do you get? Over all? She would plug it in at night, but in general, a 60 mile round trip, not being able to plug it in at work. Hope, this helps clear up my original post. I’m wondering, what’s the advantage to having a Plug in vs a true hybrid?

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[GATORB8]

So, her daily commute is about 25-30 one way. Running 70-80mph. She drives a Honda Insight now and I know she won’t get anything close to what she is getting now. She has looked at the RAV4, but she can’t order the one she wants and good luck finding one. I’m want to get an idea of combined MPG, I guess running in hybrid mode, if there is such a thing with the 4xe. So she gets 40-44 on her car, combined. I know the Jeep
Won’t get anything like that, neither will the RAV 4, but that’s kind of what I was looking for. WhT kind of combined mileage do you get? Over all? She would plug it in at night, but in general, a 60 mile round trip, not being able to plug it in at work. Hope, this helps clear up my original post. I’m wondering, what’s the advantage to having a Plug in vs a true hybrid?

A plug in is a “true” hybrid, just with a larger battery you can charge directly. It has enough battery to run solely on electric for 20-25 miles depending on trim and commute. The Jeep is also selectable for hybrid, electric, and e-save modes. Hybrid will utilize full electric when you have battery and don’t need the additional power from the ICE.

The battery and hybrid systems come a significant weight cost, which does negate most of the mpg benefit of hybrid operation with an empty battery. Also, a wrangler is not fuel efficient by any means, the base ICE in the system 2.0T is going to return low 20s in good conditions. Note, 80 mph is not an ideal condition for system efficiency.

The Wrangler is a passion vehicle, to the sacrifice of on road manners and efficiency, the 4xe is an awesome and powerful version of it, but still has the drawbacks.

My personal mpg feedback won’t be of value since we immediately lifted and increased tire size, hopefully someone will chime in with a similar commute.

 

[gburchett]

A plug in is a “true” hybrid, just with a larger battery you can charge directly. It has enough battery to run solely on electric for 20-25 miles depending on trim and commute. The Jeep is also selectable for hybrid, electric, and e-save modes. Hybrid will utilize full electric when you have battery and don’t need the additional power from the ICE.

The battery and hybrid systems come a significant weight cost, which does negate most of the mpg benefit of hybrid operation with an empty battery. Also, a wrangler is not fuel efficient by any means, the base ICE in the system 2.0T is going to return low 20s in good conditions. Note, 80 mph is not an ideal condition for system efficiency.

The Wrangler is a passion vehicle, to the sacrifice of on road manners and efficiency, the 4xe is an awesome and powerful version of it, but still has the drawbacks.

My personal mpg feedback won’t be of value since we immediately lifted and increased tire size, hopefully someone will chime in with a similar commute.

I understand that a Jeep is not build for efficiency. I bought mine JLR as a fun to drive vehicle. Not sure what size lift and tires you put on yours, but she mentioned a 2 inch Mopar with 35’s. tit would be her daily driver and she wouldn’t be doing any hard off-roading if any off roading at all. She may not drive it as fast as I drive, but the speed limit on our roads are 70 Mph, for the most part of the drive.

 

[GATORB8]

I understand that a Jeep is not build for efficiency. I bought mine JLR as a fun to drive vehicle. Not sure what size lift and tires you put on yours, but she mentioned a 2 inch Mopar with 35’s. tit would be her daily driver and she wouldn’t be doing any hard off-roading if any off roading at all. She may not drive it as fast as I drive, but the speed limit on our roads are 70 Mph, for the most part of the drive.

You are probably flatter than us, but I think you could expect about 20mpg fully depleted and about 20 miles of electric. I’m not sure it will hold electric over 70 on 35s, but it will run as an electric heavy hybrid while you have charge.

We’re getting a bit less than that on 37s with 4.10s.

At least for now, there is no way to regear over 4.10 due to limitations on the computer side. The 4xe has plenty of power to make up for it on the drivability side.

 

[VegasMarc]

I’m at just over 3,000 miles on my stock Rubicon. My commute is 20 miles one way and I’m able to charge at work, so during the week it’s almost all electric.

With this driving situation, I’m usually able to go about 700 miles between fill ups but so far, for these first few tanks, my “hybrid” mpg isn’t that great. That’s if I did my math right ?‍

I’m sure as the engine breaks in and I eventually put more miles on the actual I.C.E. unit itself, the mileage will improve.

Attached are my Fuelly numbers for reference with annotations in the notes of the breakdown between electric and hybrid miles taken from the trip odometer. The last three fill ups are from my first road trip to California last week; 280 miles each way, where I drove almost exclusively without pure electric on the interstate doing 75mph plus.

 

[gburchett]

I’m at just over 3,000 miles on my stock Rubicon. My commute is 20 miles one way and I’m able to charge at work, so during the week it’s almost all electric.

With this driving situation, I’m usually able to go about 700 miles between fill ups but so far, for these first few tanks, my “hybrid” mpg isn’t that great. That’s if I did my math right ?‍

I’m sure as the engine breaks in and I eventually put more miles on the actual I.C.E. unit itself, the mileage will improve.

Attached are my Fuelly numbers for reference with annotations in the notes of the breakdown between electric and hybrid miles taken from the trip odometer. The last three fill ups are from my first road trip to California last week; 280 miles each way, where I drove almost exclusively without pure electric on the interstate doing 75mph plus.

thank you for sharing.

 

[gburchett]

You are probably flatter than us, but I think you could expect about 20mpg fully depleted and about 20 miles of electric. I’m not sure it will hold electric over 70 on 35s, but it will run as an electric heavy hybrid while you have charge.

We’re getting a bit less than that on 37s with 4.10s.

At least for now, there is no way to regear over 4.10 due to limitations on the computer side. The 4xe has plenty of power to make up for it on the drivability side.

Thank you for sharing.

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