Most capable Rubicon?

[entropy]

Usually with the groups ive gone wheeling with its almost always 4 doors. Theres the occasional 2 door guy we end up having to wait for lol. J/k but it seems the two doors struggle a bit more than the 4 doors.

Thats because you dont offer a safe and inclusive environment for the 2 doors to shine.

Offer them an extra beer. Tell them you have a friend or a family member going through the same short wheelbase complex. Offer to talk about it but dont be pushy. Laugh even when their jokes are bad (applies to this post). Give them an extra sandwich. Praise their accomplishments.

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[Zandcwhite]

Thats because you dont create a safe and inclusive environment for the 2 doors to shine.

Offer them an extra beer. Tell them you have a friend or a family member going through the same short wheelbase complex. Offer to talk about it but dont be pushy. Laugh even when their jokes are bad. Give them an extra sandwich. Praise their accomplishments.

Gotta hook them up with lunch and a few cold ones, have you ever tried putting a yeti 110 in the back of a 2dr?

 

[entropy]

Gotta hook them up with lunch and a few cold ones, have you ever tried putting a yeti 110 in the back of a 2dr?

I forgot I even have a "trunk" in the 2 door.

 

[gato]

I was actually just wondering about this the other day. If I we're to order a Rubicon with 2.0T Auto with the 4.1 Rock Trac full time 4wd I get CV joints? Interesting. I actually had a feeling that was the case since the 392 with full time 4wd had them.

Yes. You do. And once you are on CV joints you would not want to go back. All that axle hopping on obstacles is gone. You can actually turn tightly on 4LO and even with lockers on. Plus at extreme steering angles the CV is so much stronger.

 

[JeepViking13]

Some of the comments posted on here are funny. People are clearly bias. I'm getting ready to order a 2022. I still haven't made up my mind if I'm going 2 or 4 door. So I'm not bias one way or another. Im being 100% objective. Some days I lean towards a 4 door because I have kids and will be doing a lot of camping and traveling. Then theirs days where I lean 2 door because I've seen first hand how often the 4 doors have issues getting caught up in rocks in the center and banging their frames which isn't really good for the Jeep long term especially if you don't want your frame to rust or rot. Probably why most 4 door owners that wheel trade their Jeeps in more often for newer models. 2 door owners seem to keep their Jeeps for a lot longer. Plus I feel the 2 door is easier to go toppless and door less which I'll be doing a lot.

In the end I have no idea which one I will chose. Even if I go 4 door. Most likely the 392 I would still think the 2 door is more capable in a lot of wheeling scenarios. But I also think the 4 door wins hands down for Overlanding. With that said Both are extremely capable off road and it really is splitting hairs comparing the two. I don't think I can go wrong chosing either one.

 

[Outrun]

Suprized to even see anyone voting for V8 version or Rubi. Since when bunch of extra weight and excessive power was neded for offroading ( for which wrangler ment to do).
V8 is Ultimate Malcrawler in my opinion, especially with exhaust.

Have you ever watched an Ultra4 race or KOH race, ever? Does Jeepspeed mean anything around here? Mint?

 

[entropy]

Some of the comments posted on here are funny. People are clearly bias. I'm getting ready to order a 2022. I still haven't made up my mind if I'm going 2 or 4 door. So I'm not bias one way or another. Im being 100% objective. Some days I lean towards a 4 door because I have kids and will be doing a lot of camping and traveling. Then theirs days where I lean 2 door because I've seen first hand how often the 4 doors have issues getting caught up in rocks in the center and banging their frames which isn't really good for the Jeep long term especially if you don't want your frame to rust or rot. Probably why most 4 door owners that wheel trade their Jeeps in more often for newer models. 2 door owners seem to keep their Jeeps for a lot longer. Plus I feel the 2 door is easier to go toppless and door less which I'll be doing a lot.

In the end I have no idea which one I will chose. Even if I go 4 door. Most likely the 392 I would still think the 2 door is more capable in a lot of wheeling scenarios. But I also think the 4 door wins hands down for Overlanding. With that said Both are extremely capable off road and it really is splitting hairs comparing the two. I don't think I can go wrong chosing either one.

It isnt any easier to get a 2 door naked than a 4 door. The weight difference between tops is surprisingly small. The 4 doors you have 2 extra doors to take off thats it. 2 doors look super nice naked, 4 doors not so much (my opinion and many others).

If you wanna do a lot of camping with kids dont jump on a 2 door without thinking everything through and through.

Youre gonna need a way to carry gear, you can always do roof rack and hitch rack. To me, the best to go is with a small camper. Plenty of awesome options under 2,000lbs for a reasonable price.

We keep our 2 doors long term cause we love them. There is no replacement.

 

[Outrun]

It isnt any easier to get a 2 door naked than a 4 door. The weight difference between tops is surprisingly small. The 4 doors you have 2 extra doors to take off thats it. 2 doors look super nice naked, 4 doors not so much (my opinion and many others).

If you wanna do a lot of camping with kids dont jump on a 2 door without thinking everything through and through.

Youre gonna need a way to carry gear, you can always do roof rack and hitch rack. To me, the best to go is with a small camper. Plenty of awesome options under 2,000lbs for a reasonable price.

We keep our 2 doors long term cause we love them. There is no replacement.

The look better with half doors on the back-

 

[entropy]

The look better with half doors on the back-

That looks amazing.

 

[Rodeoflyer]

I had a problem with the 392 and it's clutch type 4-all type transfer case. I don't think a Jeeps a jeep w/o the rocktrac and have heard so many complaints about the clutch type case.

Whatever the case it seems to be the way Jeep is going and most won't have a 4:1 transfer case stock in the near future. An Atlas would be great.

For the nature of this poll.. a 2 dr with rocktrac TC, 42's, 6.x gears, and one tons is the most capable lol.

Crawl ratio>power
Ground clearance>lockers
Lockers>tires
Lockers if you have clearance

Then suspension comes into play. The agility to keep a tire planted for traction, rolling etc

'most' capable is kind of a loaded question

 

[BeepBeepIssaJeep]

I'm not sure that even makes any sense. Don't you have more traction carrying 500 lbs up the stairs?

Traction isn't even a factor in that analogy with stairs. Additionally the factor of x10 is over the top. From what I can tell it is ~5% heavier to have the v8 @ 6,100 (Gross Weight)vs v6 @ 5800lbs (Gross Weight). V8 has 12.9lbs/HP, whereas V6 has 20.35lbs/hp. In the above analogy, the V8 makes significantly easier work of the stair scenario.

Sometimes you see trucks struggling for rear wheel grip which is not a component of the rear end being too heavy on the contrary weight added can provide a solution. Weight distribution on the other hand can be a significant factor.


Sometimes weight is beneficial, sometimes it is not.

Ill gladly take a 5% (300lb) weight increase for a 65% power increase (+185HP +210lb-ft).

While I can't argue against turning radius, perhaps rear wheel steer will factor in some day.

 

[BeepBeepIssaJeep]

Yeah I mean if you are not static and moving then there is momentum as well, which makes matters even worst the heavier the vehicle.

Depending which way your are trying to go and or stop. Rotational inertia would also play a factor too, right?

 

[gato]

The look better with half doors on the back-

Really like this look. Almost like an LJ.

 

[Outrun]

I had a problem with the 392 and it's clutch type 4-all type transfer case. I don't think a Jeeps a jeep w/o the rocktrac and have heard so many complaints about the clutch type case.

Whatever the case it seems to be the way Jeep is going and most won't have a 4:1 transfer case stock in the near future. An Atlas would be great.

For the nature of this poll.. a 2 dr with rocktrac TC, 42's, 6.x gears, and one tons is the most capable lol.

Crawl ratio>power
Ground clearance>lockers
Lockers>tires
Lockers if you have clearance

Then suspension comes into play. The agility to keep a tire planted for traction, rolling etc

'most' capable is kind of a loaded question

So many complaints about the clutch type case? Say what now?
Also, you think a 2 door on 42s is the most capable?

 

[entropy]

Depending which way your are trying to go and or stop. Rotational inertia would also play a factor too, right?

yeah bigger tires make a big difference too. You gotta work harder to get them moving and to stop them.

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