What is she capable of doing in Moab?

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Next year, sometime in the spring I will be out the Moab way. I’ve never done any sort of off-roading except a few bumpy trails and some light snow driving. I would like to know if i can do any of the trails out there, or should I avoid it in this build?

1.) I currently have a bone stock JLU Sahara. She doesn’t have Selec-Trac, or the Anti-spin rear differential. She has the stock AT tires not the All seasons.

2.) What about a stock Moab with the Falcon wheels. What can I reasonable do in Moab with this?





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2.) What about a stock Moab with the Falcon wheels. What can I reasonable do in Moab with this?[/QUOTE]


Nothing! ....... just kidding, lol, made me think of an old thread I was in, rubicon vrs moab humor. Seriously you can do quite a bit with either rig. Maybe @Sean K. will chime in, but if not, you should reach out. He’s very knowledgeable about Moab, and other things. I know because I bugged the crap out of him when I first joined the forum about different kinds of lockers. But he was cool about it and helped me out quite a bit......:)
 

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OP, not everything in MOAB looks like this

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You also have a lot of this

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And this...

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A stock Jeep in any trim can do a lot of stuff in MOAB, so don't worry, Just don't try picture number 1 :like:
 

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LOL...pic one is fine Sean. Gravity will ensure you get down. Going up is another story. ;)

That pic is actually on the Moab Rim at the Z turn. To the left of where this Jeep is at is the regular trail...and it's not that difficult.

Thanks for the tag, Roky. :)

OP, you can do all sorts of trails in Moab.

Without at least a limited slip, you're at a bit of a disadvantage, but there's still plenty to see and wheel out there.

Number one thing I'd recommend is: Go with at least one other vehicle.

Make sure you have recovery equipment......

Since you're a self-described novice, it would be good to go with someone more experienced.

I don't even know what "Falcon" wheels are....I'm assuming they're a brand. Wheel selection will make no difference. Perhaps you meant Falken tires? Either way, your all terrrains will be fine in Moab, and I'd argue they may be better than some more aggressive MTs on Moab's slickrock.

I'd recommend any of the more scenic runs around Moab...they are generally not as hard in terms of obstacles. Get one of the guide books for the area....they should tell you the difficulty levels and required equipment.

Fins 'N Things is a great introduction to slickrock wheeling....it's not hard, but if you've never been wheeling before, it may be a bit daunting and out of your comfort zone, which is why having someone more experienced along is a good idea.
 

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LOL...pic one is fine Sean. Gravity will ensure you get down. Going up is another story. ;)

That pic is actually on the Moab Rim at the Z turn. To the left of where this Jeep is at is the regular trail...and it's not that difficult.

Thanks for the tag, Roky. :)

OP, you can do all sorts of trails in Moab.

Without at least a limited slip, you're at a bit of a disadvantage, but there's still plenty to see and wheel out there.

Number one thing I'd recommend is: Go with at least one other vehicle.

Make sure you have recovery equipment......

Since you're a self-described novice, it would be good to go with someone more experienced.

I don't even know what "Falcon" wheels are....I'm assuming they're a brand. Wheel selection will make no difference. Perhaps you meant Falken tires? Either way, your all terrrains will be fine in Moab, and I'd argue they may be better than some more aggressive MTs on Moab's slickrock.

I'd recommend any of the more scenic runs around Moab...they are generally not as hard in terms of obstacles. Get one of the guide books for the area....they should tell you the difficulty levels and required equipment.

Fins 'N Things is a great introduction to slickrock wheeling....it's not hard, but if you've never been wheeling before, it may be a bit daunting and out of your comfort zone, which is why having someone more experienced along is a good idea.
lol, well I figured someone won't like the repair bill from falling down the rocks.:giggle:
 

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Just got back from Moab on Sunday. This book was invaluable.

Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-Wheel Drive Trails
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/193483825X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This site was extremely helpful too: https://www.jeeptheusa.com/moab-jeep-trails.html

I'd recommend any of the more scenic runs around Moab...they are generally not as hard in terms of obstacles. Get one of the guide books for the area....they should tell you the difficulty levels and required equipment.

Fins 'N Things is a great introduction to slickrock wheeling....it's not hard, but if you've never been wheeling before, it may be a bit daunting and out of your comfort zone, which is why having someone more experienced along is a good idea.
A Moab veteran recommended that we started on Gemini Bridges (easy, scenic trail with a hike to the bridge). There's tons of these type of trails around the area.

Did Fins and Things after, that was interesting for a newbie. It was a blast, but I'm glad I had the 2.5" lift and 35's. It's an experience sitting there at 35+ inclines and declines. I wasn't sure what to expect, but there was a lot of ledges and such. Luckily I had a good spotter to help build the confidence up.

Then we did Hells Revenge-lite. Again, super fun, but there's no way I would try the obstacles in my current Jeep.

Moab was so stunning. Don't forget about the National Forest area right out of town.
 

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lol, well I figured someone won't like the repair bill from falling down the rocks.:giggle:
Meh...careful line choice would probably just result in bent crossmembers....but I get where you're coming from. LOL
 

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Start with Gemini Bridges,Long Canyon,Shafer trail, chicken corners - all scenic but easy trails/dirt roads. If you get bored and feel like they are too easy move on to fins n things and hell's revenge :)
 

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I'll echo what most said above, you'll be able to do a lot of the trails.... just not the wilder ones.

If you can do any one mod before then, I'd say look at a Belly pan, it will go a long way in keeping the underside of your JL in good condition.

3.6 Artec Aluminum Belly Pan is the trick go-to unit. Massive coverage and only adds 10lbs. of weight to your rig.

2.0 Artec Aluminum Belly Pan also has the skid for the under the body 48v battery if you have the 2.0T.

A less expensive route is the Artec Steel Belly Pan. Same coverage as above, just in steel, so you will have about a 100lb. increase in weight over stock.

Here is the Northridge4x4 how-to on installing the Artec Aluminum belly pan on a 3.6 JLUR: Jeep JL ARTEC Bellypan DIY Install
 

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I'll echo what most said above, you'll be able to do a lot of the trails.... just not the wilder ones.

If you can do any one mod before then, I'd say look at a Belly pan, it will go a long way in keeping the underside of your JL in good condition.

3.6 Artec Aluminum Belly Pan is the trick go-to unit. Massive coverage and only adds 10lbs. of weight to your rig.

2.0 Artec Aluminum Belly Pan also has the skid for the under the body 48v battery if you have the 2.0T.

A less expensive route is the Artec Steel Belly Pan. Same coverage as above, just in steel, so you will have about a 100lb. increase in weight over stock.

Here is the Northridge4x4 how-to on installing the Artec Aluminum belly pan on a 3.6 JLUR: Jeep JL ARTEC Bellypan DIY Install

Looking at a bellypan certainly isn't a bad idea, but for the trails recommended, you really don't need it.

The drawbacks are obviously cost and added weight and retained heat. The weight will cost you every day on every mile you travel....and it may cost you more breakage (balanced out with better undercarriage protection...but *you* have to be the one to make that decision) and will retain more heat which may or may not be an issue depending on your normal driving climate. Yes, Artec's aluminum one will add little in weight and has the side benefit of making your wallet a lot lighter too. ;)

For the trails we've discussed, I'd say a very mild 2" lift would be more beneficial than a belly skid...though at stock height you should be fine anyway.
 

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we rented a sport with 2inch lift and 33s for a week in Moab and did these trails with no problem:


1Gemini Bridges + side trail that gets you under the bridges and Shafer Trail
2Arches park, no off roading
3Onion Creek to the top, fun trail, back down to Fisher Tower for hiking, no off roading, but spectacular scenery
4Chicken Corners, lots of fun with a couple pulse increasing spots for me as pretty much a newbie
5Canyon Lands - Needles District for a hike, no off roading aside of a dirt road to get to the trail head. Elefant Hill off road trail starts there and looks like something to do in the future.
6 Dino tracks/bones - 3D trail to visit Thrusher Tunnel closer to the airport- Long Canyon back to town, South Fins’n Things. FnT is great fun, had to reserve the rest of it for our next visit, family was getting hungry and it was getting dark.

Do get the guide book mentioned, was very useful.

Our rental company did not allow some of the more difficult trails, Hell's Revenge (though I don't think it's that difficult unless you go for all the harder obstacles), Top of the World and some others, but I'd not have attempted most of those anyway on our first time out. It's a gorgeous area and you'll have a blast!
 

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