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[2nd 392]

Yes but that limits your freedoms to pollute all over your friends and neighbors and make them sick and give them asthma.

BRUH I need to do an emissions delete on an ECO diesel and then spew black smoke everywhere :D




The funny thing is Toyota has been doing this time and time again for ages. And back in the 80s we had econo shitboxes that got like 40mpg (admittedly by epa's hopes and prayers standards back then).

But yeeaaah if you stuck a camry/prius/whatever drivetrain in a jeep wrangler it'd probably get like 18-20mpg. Maybe.

I'm going to go on a limb here and say just because something's legal on the road in Texas doesn't mean we should allow it on the road in California. That sets a really stupid precedent, but hear me out here: Those mud trucks that ride 4ft off the ground shouldn't be allowed on public roads except maybe during emergencies.

Then again, precedents are a pain. We'd have to set up a giant parking lot in primm for all the noncompliant people to park and rent a prius LOL

Please don't take anything I wrote in this post too seriously.

Hey, I agree, but when those coal rolling bro dozers were built and sold they were federal compliant, that’s all this second class Ca resident wants.
To be able to upgrade performance within fed compliant spec. like headers, intake, TB, cam, and appropriate tune as members in fre- uh non CARB states have done.

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[Centurion07]

Yes but that limits your freedoms to pollute all over your friends and neighbors and make them sick and give them asthma.

BRUH I need to do an emissions delete on an ECO diesel and then spew black smoke everywhere :D




The funny thing is Toyota has been doing this time and time again for ages. And back in the 80s we had econo shitboxes that got like 40mpg (admittedly by epa's hopes and prayers standards back then).

But yeeaaah if you stuck a camry/prius/whatever drivetrain in a jeep wrangler it'd probably get like 18-20mpg. Maybe.

I'm going to go on a limb here and say just because something's legal on the road in Texas doesn't mean we should allow it on the road in California. That sets a really stupid precedent, but hear me out here: Those mud trucks that ride 4ft off the ground shouldn't be allowed on public roads except maybe during emergencies.

Then again, precedents are a pain. We'd have to set up a giant parking lot in primm for all the noncompliant people to park and rent a prius LOL

Please don't take anything I wrote in this post too seriously.

Two thoughts on this:

1. People from California should never be allowed outside California. This especially applies to entry into Texas.

2. California--- sorry, gotta hop in my 4.5" lifted buggy and take care of another emergency!

Also NOT a serious post.

 

[Kyanche]

People from California should never be allowed outside California. This especially applies to entry into Texas.

Sadness. No texas BBQ for me.

 

[2nd 392]

Two thoughts on this:

1. People from California should never be allowed outside California. This especially applies to entry into Texas.

2. California--- sorry, gotta hop in my 4.5" lifted buggy and take care of another emergency!

Also NOT a serious post.

 

[Centurion07]

Sadness. No texas BBQ for me.

Ok ok. You two can come through for good bbq.

 

[2nd 392]

Ok ok. You two can come through for good bbq.

Thanks for the invite, but uhh, I haven’t been back to Texas since getting run out in 1970/71, by this

 

[The Last Cowboy]

Why is it, that in so many threads here or elsewhere, those who oppose the power and reach of CARB are then said to favor coal rolling brodozers? They are universally despised except by those who own one, or aspire to.

 

[2nd 392]

Why is it, that in so many threads here or elsewhere, those who oppose the power and reach of CARB are then said to favor coal rolling brodozers? They are universally despised except by those who own one, or aspire to.

You know why, any disagreement and you are accused of wanting dirty air, dirty water, to destroy the planet, or starve kids, or various ‘phobics, ‘ists, etc.
It’s an old playbook script.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

Many blame young people for that sort of thinking, but really it’s the old hippies and flower children who are the most ardent and angry about political topics. It’s almost always someone from that era who is near psychotically angry about anything that defies their beliefs.

 

[NWJeepr]

Why is it, that in so many threads here or elsewhere, those who oppose the power and reach of CARB are then said to favor coal rolling brodozers? They are universally despised except by those who own one, or aspire to.

Why are those who support CARB demonized?

 

[The Last Cowboy]

Why are those who support CARB demonized?

Who’s demonizing anyone for supporting CARB? While I don’t support CARB, in particular it’s ever increasing strength and reach, I’m not going to wish damnation on those who do.

Who voted for any of the CARB board members, and what legislature do their proposed regulations get proposed as bills and passed through? If the regs are regarded as laws, then there should be a representative legislative process for the passage of them. That goes for any regulatory agency.

 

[NWJeepr]

Who’s demonizing anyone for supporting CARB? While I don’t support CARB, in particular it’s ever increasing strength and reach, I’m not going to wish damnation on those who do.

Who voted for any of the CARB board members, and what legislature do their proposed regulations get proposed as bills and passed through? If the regs are regarded as laws, then there should be a representative legislative process for the passage of them. That goes for any regulatory agency.

Do you even use the internet to find information?

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/about/leadership

 

[The Last Cowboy]

Do you even use the internet to find information?

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/about/leadership

Yeah, a super majority are appointed. Hence the public had no opportunity to vet them and vote for them.

 

[NWJeepr]

Yeah, a super majority are appointed. Hence the public had no opportunity to vet them and vote for them.

But they are appointed by elected officials, hence the representative government piece.

 

[2nd 392]

But they are appointed by elected officials, hence the representative government piece.

Nevertheless appointed by elected officials in one state when they have national effect.
This should not be.

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