MOAB...I just don't understand

[palmor]

I have a rubicon and just built a Moab on Jeeps site as close to mine as I could. It was priced $705 more and you get the Sahara Command track 4x4 instead of the rubicon Rock track 4x4, you only get the rear axle from the rubicon(which is a $2200+ part from Mopar) not the front, you get both with the rubicon, you get the Sahara 3.45 gear ratio not the 4.10, you only get the front steel bumper not the rear like with the rubicon, and Moab doesn’t list front disconnecting sway bar. It’s ridiculous Jeep would even offer a Moab at that price.

So your Rubi build also has 8 Speed Auto, LED Lighting, 8.4" UConnect (with Alpine Stereo), Active Safety, Body Colored Top, Body Fenders, Leather Seats, All Weather Floor Mats, Headliners, Keyless Entry? Because when I price out a Rubi with all those standard features that come on the Moab it's actually more expensive (53,780 vs 52,695). Also something I was surprised at, the jeep site says that the bumpers on the Rubi are modeled plastic and the steel are an option, I thought they were standard. Anyway, so while the front steel is standard on the Moab you have to pay $1300 to get both on the Rubi.

My point is just because your Rubi build doesn't have stuff that comes standard on the Moab that you don't want doesn't mean the MOAB is overpriced... it just means it comes with different stuff. You can actually build a Sport S that is more $$ then a base model Rubi.

Both models also comes with things you can't get on the other and that is where the real differences come into play. Depending on what you plan on using your Jeep for that is what will make your choice. I wanted the option of full time AWD, this is my daily and it's also the thing we'll take on vacations and trips up into the mountains etc. I wanted the ability to put it in AWD and forget about it if I'm driving through various mixes of weather (which happens all the time in New England, dry roads one second, rain a minute later then white out conditions the next).

My offloading will be limited to up to Class 4/5 roads at most.

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[UKCATS]

How big were the tires to need a 4.56 ratio? wow!

33’s.

 

[Sean L]

33’s.

Kind of anti-climactic, lol. Still must have been a good crawler though.

 

[UKCATS]

It did well. Not wanting to disappoint you, I had 5.38’s on this one.

 

[Sean L]

It did well. Not wanting to disappoint you, I had 5.38’s on this one.

no worries. The current trend is to go with huge tires but it looks like your rigs are built for actual rocks rather than the looks.

 

[Will]

It's a simple equation.

If you daily drive a jeep to work and back, take it out at night for a nice dinner with the wife or girlfriend, take it to the beach, road trips, trail riding, basic off-roading and is your sole vehicle then a Sahara or MOAB is VERY capable.

If you need to go climb a rock get a Rubicon.

My wife daily drives a Rubicon and I enjoy it when she takes me out to dinner. She also feels the need to go climb a rock occasionally.

Good looking Jeep, brother. Love those doors.

 

[Slowpoke]

Very interesting that the Moab gets so much attention and discussion. So, yes not a Sahara, not a Rubicon, but something in between.

 

[Patinito]

Very interesting that the Moab gets so much attention and discussion. So, yes not a Sahara, not a Rubicon, but something in between.

Saharacon

 

[Slowpoke]

I really like the combination.
But I like all Wranglers.
To each his own. Probably why they're so popular.

 

[Sorbs]

So you did Hell's Gate, Escalator, Mickey's and the Devil's Highway Hot Tub on open diffs?

Nope!

 

[Sean K.]

Nope!

Kinda my point.

 

[cwadle]

The fact is MOAB's are a special case scenario, if you're the buyer the MOAB is oriented to, then it'll have exactly what you need. If you're not, than you can keep it to yourself.

 

[phantomog73]

Yeah, I really don't know for sure either. I just know from videos I have seen that MOAB has some impressive challenges for sure.

I guess I am used to special editions being something more, and that maybe I expected more based on the name. It's all good though. I thank you all for the discussion. I can see the benefits of the MOAB now more than I did before. Just needed to lift the veil I guess.

So, MOAB may have some really difficult trails, I wouldn't know. However, I think they used the name because it went along with the Jeep scheme of things. Capability wise, I think it fits fine. After all the 2019 Kia Sorento was filmed going up trails in Moab as well, but I think the Jeep is more deserving of the name.

 

[XJrider]

Why? It seems to me that the MOAB is basically a fully loaded Sahara with Rubicon fenders. I just feel that it should be a more capable off road vehicle than the Rubicon if it is going to be named MOAB, right? Not just more capable navigating the treacherous turns of a Starbucks drive through.

Ive been saying this for months. Basically the most mall ninja of all the models ...

 

[XJrider]

It actually is more capable off-road than a Rubicon in some situations.

What situations?

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