I'm 40, so I guess I'm old. I AM pretty grumpy. I don't mind the idea, but w/ the 3.6L the start is a fairly violent event. When I've had it in other vehicles the idle and start is so smooth that you really don't notice. You'd have to be dead not to notice the 3.6 starting up
My own Jeep has the 3.6 liter and I do like using the ESS at stoplights. I've learned how to avoid triggering an autostop at stopsigns and other quick stops. I've driven a 2.0 Rubicon and a 5.7 Ram Rebel with the ETorque and I can say that the restarts are much smoother than the 12V ESS. That being said, I don't regret getting the V6, but if it comes down to it and I need a new Jeep I'll be looking at the 2.0 with renewed interest.I have been trying to get a read on if there is a difference between the 3.6 and the 2.0T regarding the ESS system. My suspicion is that the 2.0T system works better than on the 3.6. Folks seem diametrically opposed in their thoughts on ESS and I wonder if that's due to different experiences in the different engines.
(Yes, I know there are other polls and threads on the ESS in general, but haven't found anything that breaks it down by engine type.)
^^This guy gets it.^^Pro-ESS all the way. Seems like a great way to make the Wrangler make sense for a daily driver without sacrificing what makes it fun. And all free money is good money!
well yes, I have a 3.6 myself so I'm pretty aware of how it feels. I've found turning off the hill start assist makes it a little less jerky. Still not as smooth as the Etorques though.Not like "I'm gonna have a heart attack" no. But it's annoying. See my earlier post - the start up on the 3.6 is not exactly gentle.