Like or hate ESS on 3.6 vs 2.0

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Do you like or hate the ESS with the engine you chose?

  1. 3.6 - like (or tolerate) the ESS

    41.4%
  2. 3.6 - hate the ESS

    33.3%
  3. 2.0 - like (or tolerate) the ESS

    22.5%
  4. 2.0T - hate the ESS

    2.7%
  1. TJ2018

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    #1 Mar 29, 2019
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2019
    I have been trying to get a read on if there is a difference between the 3.6 and the 2.0T regarding the ESS system. My suspicion is that the 2.0T system works better than on the 3.6. Folks seem diametrically opposed in their thoughts on ESS and I wonder if that's due to different experiences in the different engines.

    (Yes, I know there are other polls and threads on the ESS in general, but haven't found anything that breaks it down by engine type.)
     
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    Interesting results so far...
     
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    Problem with the poll is the 3.6 can be had with either auto or manual, where the 2.0 is auto only. Can have a different experience with the 3.6 depending on transmission.
     
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    True enough. Guess that's why I don't do polls for a living. :headbang:
     
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    Like I’ve said before, it’s actually named correctly. Even the warning light is an “A”. It’s the Automatic stop/start system. The ASS system. The engineer who put it on my Jeep was an ass, the salesman who couldn’t define its working perimeters was an ass, and when it engages and I’m not expecting it, I feel like an ass.
    Guess how I voted:angry:
    3.6 auto
     
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    I think that the results might be swayed just based off of the type of person who bought the 3.6 vs 2.0 in the first place, and their reasoning for what was chosen.
     
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    My wife says that I hate the ESS on the 3.6
     
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    I always thought that ABS was named wrong too. Anti Braking System? That makes no sense... I want my car to brake. What I don't want is a skid, so it should be the Anti Skid System.
     
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    Ummm... isn't is the Antilock Braking System? I could be mistaken.. :giggle:
     
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    Isn’t it anti- lock braking system? So your wheels don’t lock up and skid? That’s what I’ve always heard it called
     
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    Precisely
     
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    Also note that if you have an automatic and put the shifter into “M” mode, the ESS is not activated, you can sort of drive the thing like a convenient manual, get better mileage, take full advantage of engine braking and not have to worry about ESS either. Win win.
     
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    #13 Apr 1, 2019
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    Yes, I was mistaken.

    I guess ABS is just a catchier name than A-LBS /s.
     
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    I've driven a number of vehicles, including the 3.6 JL, with a conventional ESS and I'm not a fan.

    The BSG on the 2.0 though makes all the difference and I let it do its thing. The start is much more seamless and the Jeep starts rolling the instant you let off the brake thanks to the electric motor. There is no delay or noise to crank the engine because the 2.0 only uses a regular starter when you first start the engine. Every other restart is done using the electric motor instead of the starter.
     
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    I'm willing to bet that everyone who hates it is a grumpy ass old man.
     
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