LED Headlight Fail - Winter Driving

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Fees like we need to reiterate this every time this is discussed. The icing over prevalent on JL's is not an issue of LED vs halogen. Halogens also don't get hot enough to melt ice. Want proof? Drive around in a vehicle with halogens for 3 hours, they'll be slightly warm but still cool enough for you to touch.

The JL's issue is that the headlights are inset. This creates a small air pocket where snow and ice can build up. Contrast this with most modern vehicles, where the headlights are part of the exterior styling, so snow/ice just blow off from air friction as the vehicle drives.





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I live in he northeast and didn’t get the factory LED option for this reason (cost also). Plan to install an aftermarket heated LED
 

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FCA could add headlamp squirters as part of the Cold Weather Group.

Heck, my $30,000 Fiat 124 Spider came with headlamp squirters and that thing doesn’t even go out in winter.
 

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Fees like we need to reiterate this every time this is discussed. The icing over prevalent on JL's is not an issue of LED vs halogen. Halogens also don't get hot enough to melt ice. Want proof? Drive around in a vehicle with halogens for 3 hours, they'll be slightly warm but still cool enough for you to touch.

The JL's issue is that the headlights are inset. This creates a small air pocket where snow and ice can build up. Contrast this with most modern vehicles, where the headlights are part of the exterior styling, so snow/ice just blow off from air friction as the vehicle drives.
Thank you for saving my breathe. I am tired of explaining this lol.

I have found that it really depends on the type of snow that is falling, and the temp. Super dry snow and cold weather its fine. Warmer, wetter snow, sticks like glue.
 

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My KC lights melted the plastic covers too.
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That’s so true. They are the worst. LEDs are so damn cheap right now they need to make them standard.

Well, I’ll be shopping around for driving lights that I can attach to the winch guard now that don’t freeze up. I’m sure the MOPAR version of their off-road lights which are LED are no better than the headlights.

if anyone has done this and has recommendations please let me know. Thx
I installed KC 5" round halogen fogs on the winch guard. I keep the covers on them until winter. They definitely put out enough heat to melt snow as you drive. I have had my LED headlights freeze over while traveling. Don't forget to check your LED taillights occasionally as you travel.
I really like my LED's though.
 

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Thank you for saving my breathe. I am tired of explaining this lol.

I have found that it really depends on the type of snow that is falling, and the temp. Super dry snow and cold weather its fine. Warmer, wetter snow, sticks like glue.
Don't forget frozen fog. that will block em up too.
 

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FCA could add headlamp squirters as part of the Cold Weather Group.

Heck, my $30,000 Fiat 124 Spider came with headlamp squirters and that thing doesn’t even go out in winter.
Interesting, my 2018 ND Miata did not have that feature. Interesting that they added it on the Fiat version

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I occasionally question my decision to live in SC and then up pops a thread about snow on the headlights.
 

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For the reasons stated you would think someone would design /make a lens that attaches to the outer ring to sit flush with grill, so it would be flat and the force of air would push the snow off ....heck add a heating element in that with a connector to the light! Like a light cover but clear so the benefit of light is still there unencumbered by the build up of snow.
 

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Was up in Denver yesterday and headed back home in the evening during the snow storm. Had white out conditions most of the way out of Denver heading south to the Springs.

Visibility was pretty crappy but made even worse by the headlights getting frozen over. Couldn’t stop to clean them either as there weren’t many safe places to stop. This is ridiculous.

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How was the windshield. Did it ice up also?
 

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Lived up in Maine and had jeep halogens do the exact same thing on many occasions. Ended up putting halogens on the bull bar and because they were not recessed in the snow trap the headlights were in they did not freeze over as mush. Every now and then though even those would freeze over.
 

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