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we lock our doors. not sure why. we did have a snake try to get in one day. i live on a dead end rural road w/ 10 houses.

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If you meet a woman who can siphon gas with or without a hose really well marry her.
 

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Interesting thread. If my Jeep came with a remote fuel door i wouldnt mind it except for forgetting to trigger it everytime and cussing myself.... havent had any issues where I live but that or locking cap are a good idea in some areas to people from pouring who knows whatever down the filler neck.
 
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AndySpill said:

Prying open is a more obvious act that looks suspicious, than opening a locked and armed car door.


No. Not even close.
Sure Foster, maybe at a gas station it doesn't. But if you're sitting on the street without a filled gas can and trying to pry open a fuel door or cap, I think you might stand out.

What's the perpetrator of such crime likely to say to passers by. "I'm breaking into this owner's fuel input to do my good deed for the day and fill their tank up with gas?"

Why wouldn't they have access in the first place if the rightful owner. If the rightful owner but they lost their keys, why would they be filling their tank with gas?

You just don't think things thru at times, do you?
 

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I’m sorry, you completely lost me here. Silently and quickly prying open a fuel door is way less obvious than opening a **locked and armed** car door.

Unless you’re carrying a gas can or at the pump, fiddling with the fuel door/gas cap/filler neck is suspicious—regardless of whether or not the door/cap locks.



You already have a locking cap but are concerned about how easy those are to bypass. We’re saying a latching fuel door is easier to bypass. It takes less than 2s to pry open a locking/latched fuel door with little to no sound. It’s not like it ties into the car alarm and triggers that.

Your post asks if it should be a thing. The general consensus is that it shouldn’t. Even those on board with some security are saying a locking gas cap is enough. I think that’s your answer.
I should have said that the perpetrator sought vehicle entry before knowing it's locked or alarmed status, only continuing if coming upon an unlocked/unalarrmed vehicle.

If unlocked/unalarrmed, and proceeding, opening the door to get to the fuel latch is less suspicious I think.
 

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Sure Foster, maybe at a gas station it doesn't. But if you're sitting on the street without a filled gas can and trying to pry open a fuel door or cap, I think you might stand out.

What's the perpetrator of such crime likely to say to passers by. "I'm breaking into this owner's fuel input to do my good deed for the day and fill their tank up with gas?"

Why wouldn't they have access in the first place if the rightful owner. If the rightful owner but they lost their keys, why would they be filling their tank with gas?

You just don't think things thru at times, do you?
You're not reading and/or thinking clearly.

Breaking into the car and setting off the alarm to use the fuel door release is MUCH MORE suspicious than prying open the internally latching fuel door.

Even if in some universe it weren't, a vandal still has to stand by the unlatched-from-the-inside fuel door to commit a fuel tank contamination crime - just like while prying open the fuel door.

To further ground this discussion in reality, the vandal is likely to be much more deterred by the presence of onlookers than an internally latching fuel door.
 

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But if you're sitting on the street without a filled gas can and trying to pry open a fuel door or cap, I think you might stand out.

What's the perpetrator of such crime likely to say to passers by. "I'm breaking into this owner's fuel input to do my good deed for the day and fill their tank up with gas?"

Why wouldn't they have access in the first place if the rightful owner. If the rightful owner but they lost their keys, why would they be filling their tank with gas?
Very good point. The next time I pour random chemicals into someone's gas tank, I'll first put the chemicals into a fuel can so it looks like I'm just helping out.

All kidding aside, I think you're touching on the point that I'm making. Regardless of what locks or latches you put on your gas door/cap, anything you do to it looks suspicious if you don't appear to be actively putting gas into it. As @THAW said, any witnesses around would deter him. If there aren't witnesses, the extra 2s it takes to pry the latching door open probably wouldn't deter anyone.
 

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I should have said that the perpetrator sought vehicle entry before knowing it's locked or alarmed status, only continuing if coming upon an unlocked/unalarrmed vehicle.

If unlocked/unalarrmed, and proceeding, opening the door to get to the fuel latch is less suspicious I think.
Do you often sit around dreaming up scenarios that rarely happen.
 

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Oh, that reminds me. Just this morning I was talking with a neighborhood cop that was parked on my street. It's a quiet street, and they normally don't just park here, so I asked if anything was going on. He was called out because earlier a couple people saw a guy syphoning fuel out of a truck parked outside the dispensary a couple blocks away and chased him off. I guess the late-90s truck needed a latching fuel door.
 

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The leaps of logic in here are quite fun. Too bad farcical leaps of logic are not a recognized sport yet. So we have potential ne'er do wells running around with gas cans full of improper additives and pry-bars, or hoses that can't defeat the anti-syphoning devices in the fuel neck. Seems kinda silly don't it?
 

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Obviously, that just makes sense for a soft top. I'm in safari mode year-round too and do the same thing. But assuming you had a hard top...you still wouldn't lock it? And do you not lock up your home when unoccupied? Really?
My wife and I both have a hardtop and even when they are on the vehicles remain unlocked. I have told this story before but will again. My wife's Jeep had a big ass rock thrown thrown through the window and her purse was stolen. She thought it was safe where she was parked. She was parked at the community center. Which in our small town is connected to the library and, here is where the real kicker is, it is connected to the police station. Since then we don't leave anything valuable in our vehicles and leave them unlocked.

Why unlocked you might ask?
Now for the story of my buddy who used live in Trophy Club, a nice safe neighborhood. He leaves his car unlocked, and one night his Vette was broke into and the factory radio and aftermarket subs were stolen. The wastes of human flesh picked a street and broke into every car not in the garage. He was lucky because he was the only one who's window didn't get smashed. So at least he didn't have to get a new window.

As for the house it has valuables and more importantly people. It gets locked. But I do know some people who don't lock their doors and if I lived where they did I would not either.
 

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Do you often sit around dreaming up scenarios that rarely happen.
I mean what else is there to do. I’m always curious when someone has declared themselves the winner of an argument and yet they still feel the need to continue.
 

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I mean what else is there to do. I’m always curious when someone has declared themselves the winner of an argument and yet they still feel the need to continue.
I dunno I kinda stopped imagining those bad guy scenarios a couple decades ago
 
 







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