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At the risk of somebody calling BS, I am going to weigh in.
while at Moab during EJS I climbed two extremely steep rock faces, and while watching the incline-o-meter on the dash, I noted one of 45 degrees (Fins n Things) and later in the week (on Hell's Revenge) I was able to climb a rock face which showed 47 degrees.
Both of these were totally maxing my JLUR on 37" Nitto Ridge Grapplers out and required quite a bit of low speed wheel spin to heat the rubber up so that I could make the climb.
All of this was done at very low wheel speed and I purposely took the time to watch the incline meter just so I knew how steep I was going.
Call BS if you want, but I'm telling you that's what I saw... :punch:
I planted the nose of my rental Jeep on Fins & Things I took the harder route in a Barlow Jeep the short but scary hill registered @ 51 on the steepest I planted the Jeep the rear tires were still on the ledge, our cooler full of ice, water and sandwiches wound up in the front with us I thought sure I did thousands of dollars in damage and thought we were stuck, but started the Jeep back up and gave it gas and we were out no noticeable damage except dirty front bumper ☺
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I planted the nose of my rental Jeep on Fins & Things I took the harder route in a Barlow Jeep the short but scary hill registered @ 51 on the steepest I planted the Jeep the rear tires were still on the ledge, our cooler full of ice, water and sandwiches wound up in the front with us I thought sure I did thousands of dollars in damage and thought we were stuck, but started the Jeep back up and gave it gas and we were out no noticeable damage except dirty front bumper ☺
Did the exact same thing our first trip to Moab in the JK. The wife was outside taking pictures. Learning moment for sure!!

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I can't wait to go back to Moab in the JL, my brother in his Gladiator would always radio out the angles after we did a obsticale...be nice to see if from the my own rig!!!
 

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Did the exact same thing our first trip to Moab in the JK. The wife was outside taking pictures. Learning moment for sure!!

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I can't wait to go back to Moab in the JL, my brother in his Gladiator would always radio out the angles after we did a obsticale...be nice to see if from the my own rig!!!
I'll be there June 21st-24th & June 29-July 2nd in my JL Rubicon
 

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One of my favorite areas to explore has a trail that goes up to a mine and at one point has a short sidehill that registers 26 degrees (driver's side low) on the JL's display. For me, completely butt puckering and photos *never* do it justice. Over the years I've done this same obstacle in all three of my trail Jeeps and what's odd is that in my CJ-7 with the front windshield folded down on the hood that obstacle feels perfectly fine from the driver's seat. I wonder if having a frame of reference, like a roof over your head, has a lot do do with the "feel" of a sidehill?
 

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One of my favorite areas to explore has a trail that goes up to a mine and at one point has a short sidehill that registers 26 degrees (driver's side low) on the JL's display. For me, completely butt puckering and photos *never* do it justice. Over the years I've done this same obstacle in all three of my trail Jeeps and what's odd is that in my CJ-7 with the front windshield folded down on the hood that obstacle feels perfectly fine from the driver's seat. I wonder if having a frame of reference, like a roof over your head, has a lot do do with the "feel" of a sidehill?
Nah, your just tougher than most of us. 26 degrees sidehill is terrifying ?
 

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One of my favorite areas to explore has a trail that goes up to a mine and at one point has a short sidehill that registers 26 degrees (driver's side low) on the JL's display. For me, completely butt puckering and photos *never* do it justice. Over the years I've done this same obstacle in all three of my trail Jeeps and what's odd is that in my CJ-7 with the front windshield folded down on the hood that obstacle feels perfectly fine from the driver's seat. I wonder if having a frame of reference, like a roof over your head, has a lot do do with the "feel" of a sidehill?
I wondered that also I need to find a place in Moab where I can leave the hardtop before I go to Hells Revenge just to see if having a totally open cockpit makes a difference It would take 200+ pounds off of the top if you include the doors....
 

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There's this construction site near me. They're making a bridge across a branch of the Trinity River. Well the builder hasn't gotten paid for the last year and a half so they are suing whoever the heck is paying them for millions of dollars. Right now the whole construction site is dead. No one's there. Occasionally they'll have people on the site making sure no one's messing around on it. But if you go around 4:00 or 5:00 p.m., any day of the week, nobody's there. It's hard to get into the site because they have giant concrete barriers along with signs blocking your way, actual heavy duty equipment like backhoes blocking holes and such.

But I found this nice incline the other day that allowed me to get into the site. I think the only reason they didn't block this off is cuz they didn't think anybody would be crazy enough to go up it. It's probably about a 25° incline, with a 10 ft height difference between the road below and the top of the incline. Something in the center of my undercarriage got scraped at the top, but nothing was damaged so.. ?‍♂


Been meaning to get an inclinometer to better show the actual angles I'm driving the Wrangler on.

Out at broken bow Oklahoma about a year ago, my dad and I were putzing around at some of their new building sites and we went down this hill that was probably close to a 35° angle as well. It was steep as fu!c!! It was probably about a good 200 ft of 35° angle down, and then turned into an immediate 90° angle left turn at the bottom, followed by a 15° decline u-turn, which evened out into a cul-de-sac.

I walked it before I drove it, it took me about 5 minutes to get to the bottom, in about 10 minutes to get back up to the Jeep afterwards. Put it in four low, with Hill descent assist, zero issues. I was a little bit worried coming back up because I didn't have my winch yet. But the Jeep handled it like a beast, no issues in four low all the way up. The slope was covered in fist-sized and bigger rocks, and it was pretty loose, but the EcoDiesel powered right through it.


EDIT: I should note this was back when I had my rear seats and carpets and all of my interior trim still attached.
 

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So, I did Black Bear Pass a week or so after getting my Ursa Minor roof replacement tent. I was solo (with my kid) and felt confident about the switchbacks. I was not prepared for some of the off camber sections before the switchbacks that few people have filmed as being difficult. Oh, and it started raining as we got to the top!
Some of the straighter lines with less camber looked sketchy so I slowly crawled up to 26 (maybe 28) degrees roll about 5 times on my way to the switchbacks.. It didn't feel great but I just figured this was the line that everyone did! A couple times my tires squirmed sideways as they looked for bite on the wet rock and I had some mega puckering going on.
The switchbacks after those rolls felt like a walk in the park honestly.
 

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I think the "chute" in Sand Hollow outside of St. George UT. is around a 60 degree incline. The Other JLUR I was with there walked up it 2 times in a row with no lift, and and only 35" tires. He made it up with no problem, so I would guess it would go a decent amount more vertical on something that grippy. The big issue is actually getting up the start without dragging the spare tire.
What tires, what pressure?

Wow, that beats my record. I did 40° over the weekend in loose dirt. That's on my Nitto 38x13.5R17 on beadlocks at 9 PSI.
I'll be at Sand Hollow next fall with my sticky treps. I've read on this forum a dozen times you don't need sticky tires at Sand Hollow or Moab because of the abrasive rock. LOL, those who wrote than have obviously never push sticky tires and compared them to regular compounds. All the buggy folks use stickies.
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There's this construction site near me. They're making a bridge across a branch of the Trinity River. Well the builder hasn't gotten paid for the last year and a half so they are suing whoever the heck is paying them for millions of dollars. Right now the whole construction site is dead. No one's there. Occasionally they'll have people on the site making sure no one's messing around on it. But if you go around 4:00 or 5:00 p.m., any day of the week, nobody's there. It's hard to get into the site because they have giant concrete barriers along with signs blocking your way, actual heavy duty equipment like backhoes blocking holes and such.

But I found this nice incline the other day that allowed me to get into the site. I think the only reason they didn't block this off is cuz they didn't think anybody would be crazy enough to go up it. It's probably about a 25° incline, with a 10 ft height difference between the road below and the top of the incline.
Greg on his lunch break..

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(Edit; Forgot to add his diesel!)
 
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The roll angle is the most terrifying feeling for me. I knew that my stock could handle around 45 degrees (no bouncing!) but I just had no feel for what that was. So one day at the obstacle park I put the wheels on top of this cement berm. It felt like it was about to tip over. But when I got out and took a good look and measured the tilt (it was about 20 degrees max) it was a good lesson. It didn't look so scary from the outside. Now I am a lot less anxious when I get into tippy situations.

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