HIGHEST LIFT WITHOUT MAJOR SWAPPING?

[2019RubiconNY]

The quoted height gains are usually way wrong and you kind of just need to go by photos of similarly equipped rigs with the lift you want. The Mopar 2" is higher than a handful of 2.5" lifts and all of them net quite a bit more than 2" or 2.5" anyways. My advice would probably be avoid lifts quoting 3.5" and 37" tires if you don't want to do lots of additional work and upgrades and instead stick with a 2/2.5" and 35s setup. Plenty high and aggressive looking with not as much change to factory geometry and ride quality.

The difference between a $3k Metalcloak Gamechanger 2.5" and a $1300 Mopar 2" mostly isn't ride height, it's ride quality+performance as well as items included. I'd say both of these lifts net a similar level of lift, but the metalcloak includes beefier control arms with their incredible bushings for an arguably softer ride on road and more flex off road, front and rear track bars to center your axle properly after lift, and dual rate springs that will better compensate for a fully loaded jeep without sagging. They also suggest a front driveshaft but I have not seen a need for that even with lots of off roading. If you go 2.5" and aren't regularly flexing your front axle to the absolute maximum you'll never need an aftermarket front driveshaft. I'm still on my stocker and I wheel it almost every weekend.

All that said, if you're not planning on doing a lot of technical off roading you may not need a $3k lift, but I trust Metalcloak's geometry and engineering to keep my Jeep handling nice at a non-factory ride height, and I've seen their bushings show no sign of wearing out going on three years in some buddy's rigs who wheel the absolute piss out of them.

You think metalcloak will sit higher than the Mopar lift? One shop I know of swears by AEV.
ugh so many options
And yes this will be daily driven

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[Old Dogger]

Just do the Mopar 2” lift.

 

[2019RubiconNY]

Just do the Mopar 2” lift.

Why? Will it sit higher than the others? Is it complete kit?

 

[Pig-Pen]

you'd be surprised how high 3" actually is on these jeeps. just with that lift alone youre going to need at least 35s if not 37s, or it will look funny. the rubicon fenders just exacerbate the look.

this video helped me choose. i had the mopar in my garage but went with dynatrac.
AEV, from what ive read, is geared more towards overlanding and carrying weight.



i ended up with dynatrac lift with .5" spacers all around. im happy with it. it rides good on road and great off road.

nothing wrong with a spacer lift if you're going to do light off roading. it gives you the same look and maintains a great ride for a fraction of the cost. just adding the RC spacer lift to your current rubi suspension will give you a real nice lift and quality ride.

 

[El Zilcho]

Why? Will it sit higher than the others? Is it complete kit?

It looks like you asked the wrong question in your first post. I feel like your question should be how can I get a 3"+ lift without steering upgrades.

 

[Old Dogger]

Why? Will it sit higher than the others? Is it complete kit?

It is what your Dealers install. Plus if Dealer installed, then your warranty won’t be in question. At least that is the way that it works with my Dealer. But you may want to confirm this with yours. I don’t understand your question, will it sit higher than others. Normally the Mopar lift, will give you a little bit more height, than 2”.

 

[vegasblue]

Hmmm.... my suggestion is to head over to the show and tell section and see what you like, then hit up the owner to see if you can get specs. Then figure out what the 90% of the time will be for you in the driver's seat. I did a bit of research over on the Gladiator forums as well. I knew I was going to be on road as a daily driver, but I do take mine in the rocks and trails. Rocks is about half the time I go off road. That's how I went about choosing the lift. In the process I gave up a bit of flex, stayed a bit lower, gained a LOT of strength, and have a fantastic handling and riding Jeep. At full Vegas speed, no wander, no shakes, no squeeks. Vegas speeds are north of 80mph. Does great in the rocks and on the trail as well. For me, it went...

Clayton 2.5" Overland Lift
https://www.claytonoffroad.com/product/jeep-wrangler-25-overland-lift-kit-2018-jl-jl-4xe

This replaced all the control arms, track bars, springs, bumps, complete. Does not sag with the Jeep loaded for bear. (learned about sagging from the Gladiator forum) I will tell you I'm at a full 3" of lift and have zero issues with driveshafts.

I went with just Fox 2.0 shocks because piggys look cool but I have no use.

35" M/T tires. Sometimes I have yearnings for bigger, maybe next time.

 

[mferrara91]

Dynatrac Endurosport. Can highly recommend. Also drives like a dream.

 

[2019RubiconNY]

It is what your Dealers install. Plus if Dealer installed, then your warranty won’t be in question. At least that is the way that it works with my Dealer. But you may want to confirm this with yours. I don’t understand your question, will it sit higher than others. Normally the Mopar lift, will give you a little bit more height, than 2”.

I read on here the Mopar lift kit doesn’t provide all needed parts for a complete kit. You hear that?

 

[2019RubiconNY]

It is what your Dealers install. Plus if Dealer installed, then your warranty won’t be in question. At least that is the way that it works with my Dealer. But you may want to confirm this with yours. I don’t understand your question, will it sit higher than others. Normally the Mopar lift, will give you a little bit more height, than 2”.

My first thought was Mopar lift until I read rumors everywhere that you don’t get all necessary parts for a complete lift without caster issues etc

 

[Old Dogger]

My first thought was Mopar lift until I read rumors everywhere that you don’t get all necessary parts for a complete lift without caster issues etc

After your Dealer installs the lift, then they should do a alignment check on it. If it is not within specs, then they need to install lower adjustable control arms on it, and adjust the caster to specs. Just have that conversation up front with the Service writer, and request a copy of the alignment report.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

@2019RubiconNY, in your original post you wanted a moderate lift that required the least modification, if I understood correctly. For mild trials and daily use. The Mopar lift is the one for that.

Then the thread has morphed into you wanting more lift which then begins to complicate matters.

Simple is best, especially if you're new to Jeeps. Don't overthink it and don't get overcomplicated with it. The Mopar lift keeps to from sliding down the slippery slope of disappointment and constant modification and repairs if you aren't experienced with bigget lifts.

 

[2019RubiconNY]

@2019RubiconNY, in your original post you wanted a moderate lift that required the least modification, if I understood correctly. For mild trials and daily use. The Mopar lift is the one for that.

Then the thread has morphed into you wanting more lift which then begins to complicate matters.

Simple is best, escpeally if you're new to Jeeps. Don't overthink it and don't get overcomplicated with it. The Mopar lift keeps to from sliding down the slippery slope of disappointment and constant modification and repairs if you aren't experienced with bigget lifts.

Ok so here’s my finalists, Mopar lift or AEV 2.5 lift?

 

[No IFS]

Hey bud Sounds like you already know what you want. You know that you don’t want spacers you should know how to build your suspension without help from strangers online.

 

[The Last Cowboy]

Your biggest problem is having 4.10 gears with the 6 speed. Limit your tire size to 315/70/17 or 35s and you should be okay. Anything taller, at all, and your 6 speed will start to feel sluggish. As a matter of fact I believe Sport 6 speeds should have 4.10s and Rubicons should have 4.56s stock.

Short version, going bigger than 35s means a re-gearing the differentials.

I think the Mopar is more comprehensive. The AEV isn't as good of a buy, they both cost about the same.

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