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Maybe he read where I specifically stated that explicitly in post #7 of this thread? ;)
Where you agreed with his statement of 5” of lift required, I read that. Again, it clears with 2” of bump stop extension, ask me how I know? Just putting out real world correct information that I have verified myself.
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I can’t foresee ever going any higher than 3.5” in the future, so no drag link flip is in the cards.
Reading is easy, comprehending that it works great with 3.5" of lift seems harder than it should be for word302 for some reason? Here it is stuffed , absolute worst case scenario for potential interference, but some guy on the internet says it doesn't work.
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Reading is easy, comprehending that it works great with 3.5" of lift seems harder than it should be for word302 for some reason? Here it is stuffed , absolute worst case scenario for potential interference, but some guy on the internet says it doesn't work.
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Yes it “works”. You even said yours already hits with your setup. Gut those fenders and remove a bump stop spacer and you’re screwed.
 
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I’ve already gotten logical a answer that directly addresses my question. It makes sense to me, saves me $100, and keeps me from modifying the steering in a way that’s counterproductive to my goal. It applies directly to my mods and circumstances.

I really don’t give 3 squirts of piss about a dick measuring competition regarding mods I didn’t ask about to see who knows the most. I’m not lifting high. I’m not flipping a drag link. So I don’t care about that. Please keep it civil in the question at hand so that someone else might benefit from the information if they find themselves with the same question. Other than that, take the argumentativeness elsewhere. It’s tiring guys. Act like grownups.

Thanks for the knowledge guys. It’s appreciated.
 

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Yes it “works”. You even said yours already hits with your setup. Gut those fenders and remove a bump stop spacer and you’re screwed.
Replaced the fenders and went to 38’s, still had to trim the pinch seams front and rear with the spacer. How many JL’s do you see running 37’s or larger without a bump stop spacer? The XR comes with enough bump stop to run the drag link flipped. The idea that it’s lift height dependent shows a complete lack of suspension understanding. Your bump stops determine your maximum compression period. If I removed my bump stops I’d destroy my shocks, I’d need to trim all the way to the hood, AND the drag link would be into the frame. No 38’s don’t work at stock height, nor do drag link flips. Long travel shocks don’t work at stock height either, thanks for pointing out the obvious though. From rock krawlers recommendations for tire fitment with their 2.5” lift kit.
Tire Fitment:
Sport and Sahara with Full OEM Fenders
35 inch Tall Tires (2 inch Bump Stop Height Recommended)
Sport and Sahara with Trimmed or High Lined OEM Fenders
37 inch Tall Tires (3 inch Bump Stop Height Recommended)
Rubicon with Full OEM Fenders
37 inch Tall Tires (2 inch Bump Stop Height Recommended)
Rubicon with Trimmed or High Lined OEM Fenders
38 inch Tall Tires (Up to 40 inch Tall Tires for Ultra Low COG Stance)
(3 inch Bump Stop Height Recommended)
Note that for 38’s, they recommend more bump stop than I’m running. Clearly a drag link flip works fine with 3” of bump stop regardless of lift height as compression is the issue? Oh and their recommendation for their 4.5” kit?
Tire Fitment:
Sport and Sahara with Full OEM Fenders
37” Tall Tires (3” Bump Stop Height Recommended)
Sport and Sahara with Trimmed or High Lined OEM Fenders
38” Tall Tires (3” Bump Stop Height Recommended)
Rubicon with Full OEM Fenders
37”/38” Tall Tires (3” Bump Stop Height Recommended)
Rubicon with Trimmed or High Lined OEM Fenders
40” Tall Tires (3” Bump Stop Height Recommended)
It is almost like tire clearance, compressed shock length, and drag link clearance are compression limited not lift height limited regardless of lift height?
 
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I’ve already gotten logical a answer that directly addresses my question. It makes sense to me, saves me $100, and keeps me from modifying the steering in a way that’s counterproductive to my goal. It applies directly to my mods and circumstances.

I really don’t give 3 squirts of piss about a dick measuring competition regarding mods I didn’t ask about to see who knows the most. I’m not lifting high. I’m not flipping a drag link. So I don’t care about that. Please keep it civil in the question at hand so that someone else might benefit from the information if they find themselves with the same question. Other than that, take the argumentativeness elsewhere. It’s tiring guys. Act like grownups.

Thanks for the knowledge guys. It’s appreciated.
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Is this for the rear only?.... it seems you used a Synergy relocation bracket on the axle side in the rear... what did you use on the frame side? Thanks!
I used synergy for both ends of the rear track bar. Only reason I chose that brand was because it's the only one that didn't have a gusset/ubolt that extends further inboard on the axle tube. I planned on also adding the Metalcloak rear diff skid and knew that there would be ubolt interference between the two pieces. In hindsight, I would use a more cost efficient bracket and the nicer Next Venture diff skid.
 

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I already have the rear axle side bracket in the cart (Teraflex not Synergy). That’s something I decided to do a while back and just waited for a sale. Incidentally, @Northridge4x4 has a great sale going that ends today. I thought doing the same in the front would yield even more benefit but seems I’m wrong and it’s unnecessary with my 2.5” of lift. I can’t foresee ever going any higher than 3.5” in the future, so no drag link flip is in the cards. What frame side rear bracket do you have? I did install the SS front frame side reinforcement bracket but that doesn’t lower the bar, only strengthen the attachment.

Thanks.
I used synergy for both rear brackets. Their axle side one is the only choice that doesn't extend to the same spot on the axle tube that Metalcloak uses to attach their diff skid. Also, I used to have Synergys rear track bar and control arms, so was trying to be as uniform as possible.

And yeah, strengthening the track bar frame attachment is very important in my opinion. After all, it's the sole anchoring point for keeping the axle assembly centered and holding dimension in relation to the frame/body.

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I used synergy for both rear brackets. Their axle side one is the only choice that doesn't extend to the same spot on the axle tube that Metalcloak uses to attach their diff skid. Also, I used to have Synergys rear track bar and control arms, so was trying to be as uniform as possible.

And yeah, strengthening the track bar frame attachment is very important in my opinion. After all, it's the sole anchoring point for keeping the axle assembly centered and holding dimension in relation to the frame/body.

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Thanks. Teraflex is a similar design on the axle side in that it doesn’t use a U clamp and won’t obstruct the MC diff skid. I’ve got it too. I think I’ll forego the frame side for now.
 

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Thanks. Teraflex is a similar design on the axle side in that it doesn’t use a U clamp and won’t obstruct the MC diff skid. I’ve got it too. I think I’ll forego the frame side for now.
I installed it for the piece of mind, the oem bracket is thin and weak. The pain train that Shawn is building is a buy back from insurance co from being in a wreck. The track bar bracket ripped open like a piece of paper…… I didn’t feel any added stability from it personally…… but I feel better that it’s on……

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I installed it for the piece of mind, the oem bracket is thin and weak. The pain train that Shawn is building is a buy back from insurance co from being in a wreck. The track bar bracket ripped open like a piece of paper…… I didn’t feel any added stability from it personally…… but I feel better that it’s on……
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I'm with word302 and Roky on this one.

Sticking to axle side track bar relocation brackets, have you tried the rear one? After beefing up all 8 control arms, both track bars, and steering linkages to support the lift and larger tires, I became interested in the idea of raising the rear roll center. I ended up installing both an axle side relocation and frame side reinforcement brackets. I pulled out of the driveway and didn't even make it past a few houses on my block before feeling the difference. The rear end felt more planted and there was a noticeable reduction in tail wag after bumps and dips on the road. As that first drive continued, I started noticing that the more solid and planted feel of the rear had a domino effect on the steering. The micro corrections to hold a straight line became even smaller and less frequently needed.

Since I did both brackets at the same time, it's hard to tell how to split the credit. All I know is that it was an all around improvement with my Jeep.

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You suck. I just ordered $400 worth of brackets. ???
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