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[Wabujitsu]

Actually, that's a good question, Don. Really.
I've never thought of it - as a diver or as an off-roader. Nitrogen is an inert gas and on the surface seems like a natural replacement for CO2. And the automotive industry already uses it in tires. I already have a working relationship with two of my local dive shops... And I think N is cheaper than CO2 so this might be a winner.

I think I'm going to check it out.

Zero cost atmospheric air is 78% nitrogen. In street vehicles, there’s virtually no advantage to using CO2 or N2 over atmospheric air.

Pressure loss from automotive tires is negligible, virtually unmeasurable, between air, N2 and CO2. In bicycle tires it’s much more noticeable, due to high pressures and relatively tiny volume. N2 is used in high performance race car tires because N2 is less prone to tire pressure changes due to temperature change. Those specialty tires show drastic changes in vehicle handling with small temperature-induced pressure changes.

There are a lot of myths regarding these gases being used in automotive street tires.

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[FLAirgunner]

Checking in from Navarre, FL. We just ordered a new 2024 on 6/19! Excited to be back in a Jeep again!

 

[AncientCityJL]

Zero cost atmospheric air is 78% nitrogen. In street vehicles, there’s virtually no advantage to using CO2 or N2 over atmospheric air.

Pressure loss from automotive tires is negligible, virtually unmeasurable, between air, N2 and CO2. In bicycle tires it’s much more noticeable, due to high pressures and relatively tiny volume. N2 is used in high performance race car tires because N2 is less prone to tire pressure changes due to temperature change. Those specialty tires show drastic changes in vehicle handling with small temperature-induced pressure changes.

There are a lot of myths regarding these gases being used in automotive street tires.

Wow, Jeff. It seems you've missed the forest for all the trees. It isn't about the tires my friend. Nor is it about the gas contained within. It's about the gas in the cylinder I'm carrying around to fill my tires after I've aired them down.

So let us do this correctly. Our environmental atmosphere comprises 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and 0.98% Argon and other trace gases including CO2. These are rounded numbers, of course.

But it doesn't really matter what our atmospheric gasses are inside a tire because the laws of physics state that they change once these gases are under extreme pressure. And it's this change that becomes most important in my case - in all our cases here. Meaning, once I put N or CO2 in my cylinder under great pressure it is going to turn into liquid form. And HERE is where there becomes a MEASURABLE difference. You see, Jeff, VOLUME is my friend when I'm out on the trail. And CO2 in my PowerTank (under pressure) is like having 3 tanks of N. Crazy right? All things being equal and I get 3 tanks worth of gas just by using CO2. THAT, my friend is WHY CO2 is the answer and not AIR.

 

[Wabujitsu]

Wow, Jeff. It seems you've missed the forest for all the trees. It isn't about the tires my friend. Nor is it about the gas contained within. It's about the gas in the cylinder I'm carrying around to fill my tires after I've aired them down.

So let us do this correctly. Our environmental atmosphere comprises 78% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen, and 0.98% Argon and other trace gases including CO2. These are rounded numbers, of course.

But it doesn't really matter what our atmospheric gasses are inside a tire because the laws of physics state that they change once these gases are under extreme pressure. And it's this change that becomes most important in my case - in all our cases here. Meaning, once I put N or CO2 in my cylinder under great pressure it is going to turn into liquid form. And HERE is where there becomes a MEASURABLE difference. You see, Jeff, VOLUME is my friend when I'm out on the trail. And CO2 in my PowerTank (under pressure) is like having 3 tanks of N. Crazy right? All things being equal and I get 3 tanks worth of gas just by using CO2. THAT, my friend is WHY CO2 is the answer and not AIR.

Coop, you’re right - my apologies. I DID totally miss it. I am a bit distracted today from tremendous tooth pain, which is being fixed tomorrow (temp crown disintegrated). That’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it! ?

 

[AncientCityJL]

Coop, you’re right - my apologies. I DID totally miss it. I am a bit distracted today from tremendous tooth pain, which is being fixed tomorrow (temp crown disintegrated). That’s my excuse and I’m sticking to it! ?

Well heck man, I'm drunk so...

Seriously, I hope they fix that tooth. Not much can bring a man down like that kinda pain.

Cheers, Jeff

 

[Wabujitsu]

Well heck man, I'm drunk so...

Seriously, I hope they fix that tooth. Not much can bring a man down like that kinda pain.

Cheers, Jeff

Thanks Coop! I’m fixin’ to throw some beer at the tooth shortly. ?

 

[Roky]

Sup my Fla Jeep peeps, just checking in……..

 

[Sean L]

Woah... I actually got a notification for one of the roll call threads...

 

[Atomic5]

Tops down tomorrow.

 

[Wabujitsu]

Sup my Fla peeps, checking in……..

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Hey brother, miss you! Time for another Citrus ride, or maybe Hard Rock?

The only thing new around here is I had knee surgery two weeks ago. I literally walked out of the hospital the day of surgery and climbed up into my Jeep with zero issues. My knee is doing awesome; I’m ready to link up with you whenever you want!

What’s new with you, buddy?

 

[Roky]

Hey brother, miss you! Time for another Citrus ride, or maybe Hard Rock?

The only thing new around here is I had knee surgery two weeks ago. I literally walked out of the hospital the day of surgery and climbed up into my Jeep with zero issues. My knee is doing awesome; I’m ready to link up with you whenever you want!

What’s new with you, buddy?

Hey man, glad to hear you’re healing up, that’s awesome….I always knew you were tuff as shoe leather…?…. nothing exciting around here, been busy working, and wrenching….we should get out when the mercury drops a little more….. just holler at us whenever…..

 

[Wabujitsu]

Hey man, glad to hear you’re healing up, that’s awesome….I always knew you were tuff as shoe leather…?…. nothing exciting around here, been busy working, and wrenching….we should get out when the mercury drops a little more….. just holler at us whenever…..

Will do, brother! I’m running up to southern MS next weekend. Will holler at y’all while on the road.

 

[Wraith]

If we get a trail run together to Citrus or Hard Rock I would be interested in going

 

[X99104]

…. nothing exciting around here, been busy working, and wrenching….

Know that feeling..... adopted a 88 YJ and 78 CJ7. A simple frame repair turned into a complete restore on the YJ. The CJ was supposed to be the restore project and I have no time to touch it.

Roky, you're Mr Jack of all trades, what is your experience with auto paint?

 

[Roky]

Know that feeling..... adopted a 88 YJ and 78 CJ7. A simple frame repair turned into a complete restore on the YJ. The CJ was supposed to be the restore project and I have no time to touch it.

Roky, you're Mr Jack of all trades, what is your experience with auto paint?

Hey Andy, long time brother…. Sounds like fun projects…… My experience auto paint is I leave that part to the professionals, lol….that’s one thing i never got into…..wish I had for what they charge….?

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