Expected Paddle Shifter Behavior?

[yarmo]

Incorrect— I didn’t notice if it did or not, too busy trying to get it to work. ??‍

Ahh gotcha ok ok I see. Next time you drive it could you let me know? I’m curious now..

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[Ratbert]

When paddles put it in manual you have to put it in park to reset.

Seriously???

 

[2nd 392]

Seriously???

That’s what Jeep told me. I tried the shifter repeatedly on the way there. Parked in driveway so reverse would not be necessary. First question he asked was paddle shifters? said my jacket caught something so possibly. He told me since I put it in park and shut it off it would be reset if I got a paddle. Yep ??‍ Edit— there was a message on the splash screen that I missed, asked if he could retrieve it, said no. Too bad . I haven’t been smart enough to try it again ?

 

[23xr392]

On my 23, if you are in auto mode and tap the tap shifter, the display says M with the gear number.

You can go back to Auto by either holding the right tap shifter for 2 seconds, or moving the floor shifter to manual then back to auto.

 

[2nd 392]

On my 23, if you are in auto mode and tap the tap shifter, the display says M with the gear number.

You can go back to Auto by either holding the right tap shifter for 2 seconds, or moving the floor shifter to manual then back to auto.

Hmmm— I moved the shifter back and forth multiple times without effect. But the only word I caught of the splash screen message was “hold” thanks, must try.

 

[23xr392]

Hmmm— I moved the shifter back and forth multiple times without effect. But the only word I caught of the splash screen message was “hold” thanks, must try.

yeah, i get a splash screen message that says something like “Manual mode active, hold right paddle shifter 2 seconds to disable”.

i also have a setting in the touch screen settings to enable/disable paddle shifters. That setting is maybe not visible if not originally equipped with paddle shifters, and might be one of the things Jscan is writing behind the scenes, but you might look for it in the settings and make sure they are enabled there. Sorry, I don’t remember exactly where in the maze it is located.

 

[2nd 392]

yeah, i get a splash screen message that says something like “Manual mode active, hold right paddle shifter 2 seconds to disable”.

i also have a setting in the touch screen settings to enable/disable paddle shifters. That setting is maybe not visible if not originally equipped with paddle shifters, and might be one of the things Jscan is writing behind the scenes, but you might look for it in the settings and make sure they are enabled there. Sorry, I don’t remember exactly where in the maze it is located.

That message makes sense with “hold” . But my shifter didn’t work, now I wonder if it is supposed to— 21 392 (also wonder if the “expert” Jeep tech that said to put it in park had a clue— looking highly unlikely!)

 

[Tyler-98-W68]

The paddle shifters were designed to work with manual mode only. You’d be heavily interfering with the programming of the TCM in Auto mode which would eventually lead to internal failure at some point. The computer would be constantly trying to override your shift input.

That makes no sense, there is no "Failure of the TCM" by what the OP is doing. You aren't actually programming the TCM, you need HP Tuners for that, you are simply enabling features of the BCM (Body control module)
The TCM is already programmed with paddle shifting enabled, but isn't used unless paddles are activated.

The programming isn't special it's already there and isn't being modified. Failure of the TCM is extremely rare and simply enabling something through the BCM doesn't make it more likely to fail.

 

[jaardappel]

I just put the paddle shifters on my Jeep and used a Tazer Mini to enable them. Pages 14/15 of the Jeep 392 Manual outline that you can use the paddle shifters without going into manual position with the transmission. Here is the link:

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/wrangler-rubicon-392-owners-manual-pdf.451010/

I haven't played with mine much, but it matches what the manual says....that the gear selector will disappear from next to "D" but be displayed on the instrument panel. When I use the shifters while still in automatic (not manual), the gear indicator disappears and I don't see it anymore. BUT....like I said, I haven't played with it to see if I can change up the screen to show it. Maybe I can edit the fields....I don't know yet.

A few more notes on using them from the manual and what I've seen so far:

* When using them in Auto, the Jeep will pull you out of paddle-mode when the vehicle RPMs are low enough for it to resume. I don't know what RPM's yet, but I know it's lower and not when the RPMs are higher. I don't have a better explanation of what I mean, but try downshifting going up a hill and then upshifting with them at the top and wait a few seconds until you see the vehicle slip back into auto (out of paddle-shifting mode).

* If you activate the paddle shifters by tapping the "+" paddle, you don't change gears up or down if you do this (this was mentioned here on your thread and I think you get that).
* You can deactivate them by holding "+" and the Jeep will put it back into Auto mode so long as you aren't in Manual Transmission with the Autostick (gearshift).
* If you are in Manual Autostick, your choices are use Autostick or use paddle shifters.
* You can activate the paddle shifters by tapping the "-" too, but it'll down shift when you do so. Again, if you aren't in manual Autostick mode, it'll resume normal transmission after some lower level of RPMs from what I've found.
* If your paddle "clicks" aren't much or don't seem to be tactile enough for you to feel them move--you have them too tight. You'll need to take the small cover off the backside of each shifter and loosen it a tiny bit until it clicks easier with a bit greater movement. I found that on mine I initially had them too tight...they were secure to the steering wheel but didn't click much at all. Loosening them a bit still secured them to the wheel but drastically improved the click and movement of the silver paddle in the shifter module without making the module loose on the wheel.

Good luck. Sounds like your paddles are working just fine. I'm sure we both will crack the code on where the shift indicator goes when we activate the paddle shifters while still in automatic (not using manual/autostick) mode.

Cheers--

John

 

[yarmo]

I just put the paddle shifters on my Jeep and used a Tazer Mini to enable them. Pages 14/15 of the Jeep 392 Manual outline that you can use the paddle shifters without going into manual position with the transmission. Here is the link:

https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/wrangler-rubicon-392-owners-manual-pdf.451010/

I haven't played with mine much, but it matches what the manual says....that the gear selector will disappear from next to "D" but be displayed on the instrument panel. When I use the shifters while still in automatic (not manual), the gear indicator disappears and I don't see it anymore. BUT....like I said, I haven't played with it to see if I can change up the screen to show it. Maybe I can edit the fields....I don't know yet.

A few more notes on using them from the manual and what I've seen so far:

* When using them in Auto, the Jeep will pull you out of paddle-mode when the vehicle RPMs are low enough for it to resume. I don't know what RPM's yet, but I know it's lower and not when the RPMs are higher. I don't have a better explanation of what I mean, but try downshifting going up a hill and then upshifting with them at the top and wait a few seconds until you see the vehicle slip back into auto (out of paddle-shifting mode).

* If you activate the paddle shifters by tapping the "+" paddle, you don't change gears up or down if you do this (this was mentioned here on your thread and I think you get that).
* You can deactivate them by holding "+" and the Jeep will put it back into Auto mode so long as you aren't in Manual Transmission with the Autostick (gearshift).
* If you are in Manual Autostick, your choices are use Autostick or use paddle shifters.
* You can activate the paddle shifters by tapping the "-" too, but it'll down shift when you do so. Again, if you aren't in manual Autostick mode, it'll resume normal transmission after some lower level of RPMs from what I've found.
* If your paddle "clicks" aren't much or don't seem to be tactile enough for you to feel them move--you have them too tight. You'll need to take the small cover off the backside of each shifter and loosen it a tiny bit until it clicks easier with a bit greater movement. I found that on mine I initially had them too tight...they were secure to the steering wheel but didn't click much at all. Loosening them a bit still secured them to the wheel but drastically improved the click and movement of the silver paddle in the shifter module without making the module loose on the wheel.

Good luck. Sounds like your paddles are working just fine. I'm sure we both will crack the code on where the shift indicator goes when we activate the paddle shifters while still in automatic (not using manual/autostick) mode.

Cheers--

John

This is SO helpful, thank you! Yes you’re right it sounds like mine are functioning properly. Interesting that the gear icon disappears when in auto mode using paddles. You’d think it would stay there but I guess not? Just tried holding the + shifter and it put me back in auto. Thanks!

 

[jaardappel]

This is SO helpful, thank you! Yes you’re right it sounds like mine are functioning properly. Interesting that the gear icon disappears when in auto mode using paddles. You’d think it would stay there but I guess not? Just tried holding the + shifter and it put me back in auto. Thanks!

Definitely try changing gears lower or higher and then wait for (about less than 10-15 seconds), you'll see that it goes out of paddle-shifter mode and back into auto again....this of course when it's not in Manual Transmission mode.

Glad yours are working well.

Cheers!

VR


John

 

[yarmo]

Seriously???

We figured out that you don't have to. Just hold the + shifter for two seconds and it goes back to full auto. What I don't like is that when using the paddles in auto, you lose your gear indicator icon in the dash...

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