Engine

[west tex]

Just curious if anyone else has gotten a call from Jeep. I placed an order in December for a 22 Sahara altitude and it is finally in production but I got a voicemail from Jeep while on vacation and trying to figure out what it means. Called the salesman and he wasn’t sure and was getting with the manager but haven’t heard back yet, will
Call them again on Monday. Just curious if anyone else has gotten the call or know what the difference may be. I couldn’t understand her voicemail real well but I’ve attached the transcribed voicemail which I am sure is a little miscued.

This so-called "Marika" isn't a fluent English speaker, obviously. Contact your dealer and see if this is legit.

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[Antonio]

I’m lost on this, shouldn’t jeep be able to see in their system how many vehicles are already on order as SOLD and know that if they have like 100 already in order for the 3.6 and only have 150 of the 3.6 liters engine left that they can only take new orders for 50 more so you don’t screw the people who already had an order in, out of their choice engine?? Seems ironic to me that’s simple inventory tracking! I mean it’s one thing to know when you place the order that the 3.6 isn’t available and you need to make a choice, vs them saying here ya go that’s all we got left now cause we didn’t put aside engines to fulfill the previous placed orders already in our system! ?

 

[JustinB]

I have read that new orders won’t be made with the 3.6 but that’s crazy they won’t make your Dec order now. If you have to switch engines ask for the Diesel instead

Or perhaps... Ask for the 392

 

[Hennessey17]

I’m lost on this, shouldn’t jeep be able to see in their system how many vehicles are already on order as SOLD and know that if they have like 100 already in order for the 3.6 and only have 150 of the 3.6 liters engine left that they can only take new orders for 50 more so you don’t screw the people who already had an order in, out of their choice engine?? Seems ironic to me that’s simple inventory tracking! I mean it’s one thing to know when you place the order that the 3.6 isn’t available and you need to make a choice, vs them saying here ya go that’s all we got left now cause we didn’t put aside engines to fulfill the previous placed orders already in our system! ?

You're assuming Jeep/Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis is a well run company... I don't ever remember Chrysler being well run.

As an anecdotal example, I had a part time merchandising position with Crate & Barrel. I then worked the same position for Pottery Barn and helped out in the Williams Sonoma store as well. Both companies sell the same thing... C&B is SOOOO much more well run. The stockrooms are organized, labeled, and the computer system keeps track of everything... PB... its a fucking mess. I even showed the GM pictures of how C&B did things and she said it wasn't necessary... so while I could do a stock check at C&B on a product I've never seen before in a minute... I could be searching PB for 10 minutes and still be unsure... and all three stores were in 500 feet of each other, sold the same things, but the companies were total polar opposites.

 

[1BadManVan]

Not sure I'd want the 3.6 w/o eTorque. The 3.6 in my JT is exactly the reason I'm going with the 2.0T in my new JLR build. While it's not 'bad', I will say it's only adequate. It's down on power to help with longevity and reliability, especially on the trail. That's great and again, while it's not bad for a DD, it's just sort of meh.

The eTorque from what I've read applies extra rotational force for the first 1/4 turn of the wheels while restarting the engine from a stop. Not sure I can say that will do much but I've read places in this forum where people tout it as feeling much better. Other's begrudge it because it's '1 more thing to fail'. Honestly with the complexity of the engines and whole vehicle itself nowadays is that 1 part really that big of a deal? It's not like you're driving something bulletproof that's guaranteed for 20yrs except this 1 Achilles Heel that rattles a lot and is wrapped in duct tape...

The issue more is if that “1 part” fails, it leaves your vehicle at the side of the road. So that one part becomes a bigger deal because it’s not something you can just kick the can down the road and fix later. So far it seems to be a decently reliable system, it’s been in the rams for awhile.

 

[YippieKiYayMrFalcon]

I’ll just put my .02 in regarding eTorque as there’s lots of info on the forum regarding it. I had a 2018 3.6 ESS and I hated it. At one point, I had to replace 3 aux batteries (under warranty) within a year. And that was with regular driving.

that jeep finally experienced a major issue that was 90+ days into diagnosing before I made the dealer take it and I got a 2021 3.6 with eTorque. It’s got about 16 months and 11k miles on it so far and I’m much happier with it.

also, the eTorque components are all covered for 8 years / 80k miles because it’s a “mild hybrid system”.

 

[Sazabi19]

The issue more is if that “1 part” fails, it leaves your vehicle at the side of the road. So that one part becomes a bigger deal because it’s not something you can just kick the can down the road and fix later. So far it seems to be a decently reliable system, it’s been in the rams for awhile.

How is that any different from the secondary battery dying and leaving you stranded? Granted you can bypass it if you have everything you need with you while you're out.

 

[Sazabi19]

If you haven't test driven a 2.0 yet, you really should. It's honestly no slouch whatsoever. This Engine really hauls for its size, especially thru the Trails. Spending some time here and there exploring under the Hood of mine, it's not as bad as many people think. Besides the plethora of Cooling Lines, as well as some of the extra electrical bits, it's still a "simple" Inline 4 Cylinder with a Turbo attached.

I think you read my post wrong

 

[rubiria]

I think you read my post wrong

I just realized, re-reading right after posting. Doh! lmao

 

[Sazabi19]

I just realized, re-reading right after posting. Doh! lmao

Lol no problem. The 2.0T is really nice. The story how I am ordering my JLR is a bit funny. I originally went in looking for a 4xe to test out. Found 1 and I liked it enough but it had a hard top as does my JT. I wanted to experience what a soft top would sound like but the only one they had on the lot was a 2-door.

I took the 2 door Willy's out for a test drive and thoroughly enjoyed myself. I realize it's only ~200lbs lighter (how, I dunno) than a JLU but it felt so much different with it's small wheelbase. With the 2.0T in it and without ~700-900+ lbs of batteries to lug around it was also very peppy! I somehow went and fell in love with the 2-door and that little engine lol. So now here I am waiting on my Gobi JLR 2.0T :D

 

[1BadManVan]

How is that any different from the secondary battery dying and leaving you stranded? Granted you can bypass it if you have everything you need with you while you're out.

I think you just answered how it’s different lol. Plus you can bypass it ahead of time to avoid the issue all together. Not something you can avoid with e- torque since it’s also your alternator

 

[NewbJLUOwner]

I have read that new orders won’t be made with the 3.6 but that’s crazy they won’t make your Dec order now. If you have to switch engines ask for the Diesel instead

Agreed ?

 

[NewbJLUOwner]

Just curious if anyone else has gotten a call from Jeep. I placed an order in December for a 22 Sahara altitude and it is finally in production but I got a voicemail from Jeep while on vacation and trying to figure out what it means. Called the salesman and he wasn’t sure and was getting with the manager but haven’t heard back yet, will
Call them again on Monday. Just curious if anyone else has gotten the call or know what the difference may be. I couldn’t understand her voicemail real well but I’ve attached the transcribed voicemail which I am sure is a little miscued.

These types of important calls always happen when not available to speak or get ignored with all the SPAM calls, frustrating not to be able to speak with someone, especially on an expensive purchase
Good news, your Jeep is being built
Bad news, not getting the engine you ordered . Sorry to hear that.
Although, I've read numerous posts the 3.6L is a very reliable engine, regardless if etorque or not
Hopefully you can reconnect with someone @ Jeep & come up with a solution you are happy with
Best of luck ?

 

[Sazabi19]

I think you just answered how it’s different lol. Plus you can bypass it ahead of time to avoid the issue all together. Not something you can avoid with e- torque since it’s also your alternator

Ya but your average person doesn't A) disconnect their secondary battery, B) have the knowledge of how to bypass it, and C) have the tools/parts with them at any given random time when it may fail. To me, it's the same either way for your average person. I'll also say I'm 1 of those people who love my ESS

 

[1BadManVan]

Ya but your average person doesn't A) disconnect their secondary battery, B) have the knowledge of how to bypass it, and C) have the tools/parts with them at any given random time when it may fail. To me, it's the same either way for your average person. I'll also say I'm 1 of those people who love my ESS

Like I said, I’m not totally against the Etorque system, I just don’t see it as a deal breaker without either. I had the first gen 3.6 in my old grand caravan for about 220k before we sold it and it was a fantastic engine and I beat the crap out of it lol. I always ran Mobil 1 or Pennzoil platinum in it.

Only thing on that motor that almost left me stranded was that stupid plastic thermostat housing that split on me driving through the mountains. Limped it into the nearest town

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