Do you really need beadlocks?

[DOOKEY]

Hell, I've had tire shops refuse to install snow tires on my wife's Merc AMG due to them being a different aspect ratio than stock, even though they had diameters identical to stock.

Some of those shops think with their lawyers first.

Your point brings up a much larger talking point for those trying to take the jump to beadlocks. You can't trust others. I had a shop in California call me and ask about my double beadlocks. They left the insert on the wheel and were trying to stretch the tire over the rims to get the tire to seat.

I believe this is much larger than wheels/beadlocks but if you're going to modify any vehicle you need to be well versed in what you're doing. Tire moneky's, as I call them, don't give a damn about what they are doing. Let's just get it done and move on.

If you're going to get beadlocks you should know how they work to limit your exposure to stupid tire shops. I encourage everyone to install my wheels the first go round so they get it.

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[blnewt]

Best reply of thread

It was a great reply, but in your case where you mentioned in your initial posting below, would definitely not be needed, but if those medium difficult trails and casual off-roading scratch the itch to go more extreme, then just buy once You could buy beedlock capable wheels and just run them without the lock and convert to beedlocks if that's what you need in the future too.

Debating whether or not to get them (KMCs) on my JLUR, are they worth the hassle and cost or no? How common is it for low psi tires to slip off a non beadlock rim?

(Use will be casual offroading, medium difficulty trails)

 

[zouch]

meh.
i would expect that i'd be having to deal with anything related to beadlocks myself to start with, and from there on out. i'm OK with that.
no reason a shop won't pop the inner bead of the tire on the rim if i want them to; i'd expect to finish the install of the lock ring myself. likewise, if i were in West Nowhere'istan and need to exchange out a destroyed tire, i'd expect to be the one to pop the outer ring and let a shop pull the tire off and put the new one halfway on.
NBD.

More peace of mind until you need to have something done to the tires or wheels. Then you risk not being able to find a shop that will have the balls to touch them.

 

[zouch]

indeed.
depends on where you are and what you're trying to do.

Thanks. I had heard 12-13 was ok. For what I have been doing, much lower than that is not needed nor an advantage.

 

[smokeythecat]

Airing down to no further than 15 psi is the rule-of-thumb for non-beadlock wheels.

That's likely very good advice. But check out this video to see a test of how low you might be able to go in certain conditions with no bead locks.

 

[wibornz]

meh.
i would expect that i'd be having to deal with anything related to beadlocks myself to start with, and from there on out. i'm OK with that.
no reason a shop won't pop the inner bead of the tire on the rim if i want them to; i'd expect to finish the install of the lock ring myself. likewise, if i were in West Nowhere'istan and need to exchange out a destroyed tire, i'd expect to be the one to pop the outer ring and let a shop pull the tire off and put the new one halfway on.
NBD.

My local tire shop will break the inner bead and remove the tire and put the new tire on the wheel so all I have to do is put the tire on the outer lip and bolt the ring down.

They charge me $5 per tire. Worth every penny.

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