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I’ll know more tomorrow, just got it on and took short ride. I need to adjust it , pull to right slightly. But it is pretty cool. Doesn’t spin the wheel , it’s just holds the center. It’s lighter than my fox, so I was over correcting at first but got used to it pretty quick. It’s gonna be hard to explain, lol. But I like it so far. The most noticeable thing was the wind doesn’t hit you as hard…… I’ll get into it more tomorrow……..
Thanks for quick response. If works it definitely appears to offer more clearance when stuffing the axle.
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I’ll know more tomorrow, just got it on and took short ride. I need to adjust it , pull to right slightly. But it is pretty cool. Doesn’t spin the wheel , it’s just holds the center. It’s lighter than my fox, so I was over correcting at first but got used to it pretty quick. It’s gonna be hard to explain, lol. But I like it so far. The most noticeable thing was the wind doesn’t hit you as hard…… I’ll get into it more tomorrow……..
I hear you have Nitrogen powered stabilizer with centering, how do you like it?
 
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Initial thoughts:

So I was fortunate to be asked to try this prototype, nitrogen gas based unit, in place of my steering stabilizer. This thing is pretty sweet! It’s a device that holds the center on your steering wheel. It returns to center after making a turn, but doesn’t spin the wheel out of your hand or anything like that. It just holds the center.

I like a heavier feel to the steering wheel, so for me it took a little getting used to. With this device the steering is lighter, but stronger. Hard to explain and I’m probably not explaining it right, but the steering wheel doesn’t move driving down the road.

Also what I noticed the quickest was driving in the wind. You still feel the wind hit your rig, but the steering wheel doesn’t move so you don’t over correct……

Over a rough road where I would usually make small corrections, there’s none of that with this. Steering wheel is stone cold silent, not even a twitch. I took it down a pot holed dirt road that leads into the woods at about 30mph, with hands off the wheel, and the steering wheel didn’t move. It would move slightly, maybe a quarter to half inch over the deeper holes, but returned back to center. Remember this is without me holding the wheel.

No bumpsteer, no DW, nothing. I’ll try and get some video later this week or weekend. Now to be honest my Fox stabilizer keeps my steering wheel pretty still as well, the difference being I have the pressure turned up on it to achieve close to the same result.

All in all, this is something I would, and probably will run on my rig. I’m still learning about it, and figuring the best way to mount it and such…….

Right now I have it attached with the Synergy steering stabilizer relocation kit. It has a track bar bolt and a tie rod clamp.
This how I have it…….

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I have a Steersmarts axle bracket coming so I can rotate the axle side eyelet 90 degrees, with the bolt, it’s in a slight bind, not bad though, I wouldn’t even change it if I wasn’t testing……….

I also checked clearance with the track bar and diff. I stuffed the wheels 2 different ways, and I have plenty of room, although I am still going to pick up a flathead bolt, just for a little extra assurance…….

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Initial thoughts:

So I was fortunate to be asked to try this prototype, nitrogen gas based unit, in place of my steering stabilizer. This thing is pretty sweet! It’s a device that holds the center on your steering wheel. It returns to center after making a turn, but doesn’t spin the wheel out of your hand or anything like that. It just holds the center.

I like a heavier feel to the steering wheel, so for me it took a little getting used to. With this device the steering is lighter, but stronger. Hard to explain and I’m probably not explaining it right, but the steering wheel doesn’t move driving down the road.

Also what I noticed the quickest was driving in the wind. You still feel the wind hit your rig, but the steering wheel doesn’t move so you don’t over correct……

Over a rough road where I would usually make small corrections, there’s none of that with this. Steering wheel is stone cold silent, not even a twitch. I took it down a pot holed dirt road that leads into the woods at about 30mph, with hands off the wheel, and the steering wheel didn’t move. It would move slightly, maybe a quarter to half inch over the deeper holes, but returned back to center. Remember this is without me holding the wheel.

No bumpsteer, no DW, nothing. I’ll try and get some video later this week or weekend. Now to be honest my Fox stabilizer keeps my steering wheel pretty still as well, the difference being I have the pressure turned up on it to achieve close to the same result.

All in all, this is something I would, and probably will run on my rig. I’m still learning about it, and figuring the best way to mount it and such…….

Right now I have it attached with the Synergy steering stabilizer relocation kit. It has a track bar bolt and a tie rod clamp.
This how I have it…….

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I have a Steersmarts axle bracket coming so I can rotate the axle side eyelet 90 degrees, with the bolt, it’s in a slight bind, not bad though, I wouldn’t even change it if I wasn’t testing……….

I also checked clearance with the track bar and diff. I stuffed the wheels 2 different ways, and I have plenty of room, although I am still going to pick up a flathead bolt, just for a little extra assurance…….

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Well said, I do like no hands.
 

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Initial thoughts:

So I was fortunate to be asked to try this prototype, nitrogen gas based unit, in place of my steering stabilizer. This thing is pretty sweet! It’s a device that holds the center on your steering wheel. It returns to center after making a turn, but doesn’t spin the wheel out of your hand or anything like that. It just holds the center.

I like a heavier feel to the steering wheel, so for me it took a little getting used to. With this device the steering is lighter, but stronger. Hard to explain and I’m probably not explaining it right, but the steering wheel doesn’t move driving down the road.

Also what I noticed the quickest was driving in the wind. You still feel the wind hit your rig, but the steering wheel doesn’t move so you don’t over correct……

Over a rough road where I would usually make small corrections, there’s none of that with this. Steering wheel is stone cold silent, not even a twitch. I took it down a pot holed dirt road that leads into the woods at about 30mph, with hands off the wheel, and the steering wheel didn’t move. It would move slightly, maybe a quarter to half inch over the deeper holes, but returned back to center. Remember this is without me holding the wheel.

No bumpsteer, no DW, nothing. I’ll try and get some video later this week or weekend. Now to be honest my Fox stabilizer keeps my steering wheel pretty still as well, the difference being I have the pressure turned up on it to achieve close to the same result.

All in all, this is something I would, and probably will run on my rig. I’m still learning about it, and figuring the best way to mount it and such…….

Right now I have it attached with the Synergy steering stabilizer relocation kit. It has a track bar bolt and a tie rod clamp.
This how I have it…….

2272B2B2-ADEA-4B75-B242-B12E9CD4736A.jpeg
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I have a Steersmarts axle bracket coming so I can rotate the axle side eyelet 90 degrees, with the bolt, it’s in a slight bind, not bad though, I wouldn’t even change it if I wasn’t testing……….

I also checked clearance with the track bar and diff. I stuffed the wheels 2 different ways, and I have plenty of room, although I am still going to pick up a flathead bolt, just for a little extra assurance…….

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Initial thoughts:

So I was fortunate to be asked to try this prototype, nitrogen gas based unit, in place of my steering stabilizer. This thing is pretty sweet! It’s a device that holds the center on your steering wheel. It returns to center after making a turn, but doesn’t spin the wheel out of your hand or anything like that. It just holds the center.

I like a heavier feel to the steering wheel, so for me it took a little getting used to. With this device the steering is lighter, but stronger. Hard to explain and I’m probably not explaining it right, but the steering wheel doesn’t move driving down the road.

Also what I noticed the quickest was driving in the wind. You still feel the wind hit your rig, but the steering wheel doesn’t move so you don’t over correct……

Over a rough road where I would usually make small corrections, there’s none of that with this. Steering wheel is stone cold silent, not even a twitch. I took it down a pot holed dirt road that leads into the woods at about 30mph, with hands off the wheel, and the steering wheel didn’t move. It would move slightly, maybe a quarter to half inch over the deeper holes, but returned back to center. Remember this is without me holding the wheel.

No bumpsteer, no DW, nothing. I’ll try and get some video later this week or weekend. Now to be honest my Fox stabilizer keeps my steering wheel pretty still as well, the difference being I have the pressure turned up on it to achieve close to the same result.

All in all, this is something I would, and probably will run on my rig. I’m still learning about it, and figuring the best way to mount it and such…….

Right now I have it attached with the Synergy steering stabilizer relocation kit. It has a track bar bolt and a tie rod clamp.
This how I have it…….

2272B2B2-ADEA-4B75-B242-B12E9CD4736A.jpeg
FB0B1219-BF24-40EA-BF4C-FBA17B0996AB.jpeg
024E6301-ADE0-4D8C-A31C-EC8B79649686.jpeg


I have a Steersmarts axle bracket coming so I can rotate the axle side eyelet 90 degrees, with the bolt, it’s in a slight bind, not bad though, I wouldn’t even change it if I wasn’t testing……….

I also checked clearance with the track bar and diff. I stuffed the wheels 2 different ways, and I have plenty of room, although I am still going to pick up a flathead bolt, just for a little extra assurance…….

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Thanks for the update and breakdown on this Roky! Looking forward to hearing more as you run it through its paces.

I'm wondering if you feel it's making the steering pump work harder...if so, what will that be like in 4LO, etc.. Have you had a chance to test that? Appreciate you Brother✌?


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Thanks for the update and breakdown on this Roky! Looking forward to hearing more as you run it through its paces.

I'm wondering if you feel it's making the steering pump work harder...if so, what will that be like in 4LO, etc.. Have you had a chance to test that? Appreciate you Brother✌?


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Thanks man….. I plan on wheelin it this weekend……. I don’t feel that it’s making it harder on the steering, it’s a light feel and hardly noticeable. My Fox was probably harder on the steering because of the way I have it set up for a heavier feel.
But I’m just getting into it, I’m learning more about it each day, and I’ll make sure I post up on it, good or bad. So far though, it’s seems pretty cool.
 
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A little vanity mod today…… I’m over the red skid, so put some hammered black rattle can on them, and put on some classic Dana covers ………..

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A little vanity mod today…… I’m over the red skid, so put some hammered black rattle can on them, and put on some classic Dana covers ………..

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Doesn't look like a dogs dick hanging below your Jeep now ;)
 

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Thanks man….. I plan on wheelin it this weekend……. I don’t feel that it’s making it harder on the steering, it’s a light feel and hardly noticeable. My Fox was probably harder on the steering because of the way I have it set up for a heavier feel.
But I’m just getting into it, I’m learning more about it each day, and I’ll make sure I post up on it, good or bad. So far though, it’s seems pretty cool.
Roky Johnd here I am trying another way to get my info across. We will be a dealer so I need to understand what is allowed if we sponsor on the site. It is very hard to get info. I may have higher pressure units to try soon. I have a 75,100,125, and a 150 on order. I will try all on my 392 XR and make a video.
I think it would help if you could get a video now of your steering wheel that shows a lack of movement while showing the speedo and road ahead while commenting on your impressions. And if you do other pressures make a similar video. That sounds like a lot, but if you can do it I could use it. It may be a while, but I will let you try more pressure to see if you like more better. We are becoming a dealer so we can find people like yourself to try our design. I am looking for pressure a stock wrangler buyer can install and get a very good driving Jeep with no excuses for being a jeep. I think I can do this with your help. I had opinions on what 100 lbs might feel like on a stock wrangler. I thought it might feel heavy on a stock Willy's and I thought it might be right on yours. You call it light, but kind of good. In the end, I will get you the pressure you like best.
I get a feeling the power steering can handle the higher pressure and not be too heavy, that's why we need to know what is too much and what is too little. Our tests over the last two years gave very mixed results almost coke/Pepsi. It has been hard to get a good answer. For sure I think the need is to be able to go fast over bumps with no steering wheel movement and a steering wheel pressure that is not tiring. Heavy but not tiring. Tell me what you think. On RV's big ones it is hard to get too much pressure 330 lbs was just right on a 31000 GVW 40 foot super c. I tried 175, 220, and 275 then 330. With 330 nothing not even high winds could move it off the path. That power steering made it invisible.
 

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The Mopar 2” lift.......

I’ve installed over a dozen Mopar lifts over the last couple years on the JL. For whatever reason ( probably anticipating added weight ) the Mopar lift gives more than 2” of lift and they don’t include the parts to make it as it should be.

The best way to tell exactly how much lift you get, if you’re able to, is to measure from the top of front axle to the bottom lip of the upper coil spring housing before and after lift, the difference is how much lift you actually get .......

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When you get more than 2” of lift your caster is decreased and your axles shift, front to the drivers side and rear to the passenger side. Because everything on the alignment read out doesn’t show anything out of spec, that’s how they justify not adding parts to the lift kit.

Now you can drive it as is on the highway or light trails without issues. But if you’re gonna be off-roading and want it to drive better on the highway then you need to add a few things to the kit, the brand is up to you....

1 - front adjustable track bar to re-center the front axle.
2 - rear track bar relocation bracket if you want to keep factory rear track bar or an adjustable track bar
3 - front lower adjustable control arms to increase your caster ( around 6 or a little more is optimal ) to minimize if not eliminate wandering on the highway.
4 - front lower RK coil spring isolators. This is optional depending on how much spring bow you got and how hard you wheel it, the ones in the kit can collapse.

Some don’t care that things are a little off and are using the kit as is which is fine. There is no real ill effects short term but long term I think the factory lower control arm bushings will wear faster being in a slight bind. Again, this is in more extreme cases.

I have no science to back that up , only a couple guys that came to me a year and a half later with worn bushings. This could also be it’s just the way they use their rig, I don’t know. But I won’t install anymore Mopar lifts if the customer doesn’t have these extra parts with them........

Here’s some pics of a more extreme example........

You can see the axle shifted

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this axle was over an inch off...

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Here’s a collapsed coil isolator

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Again this is just a guideline to what to look for and address if you have some of these issues with your Mopar lift. IMHO, if you do these few things you'll enjoy your lift a lot more............:)
Thank you for taking the time to be thorough, I took pics of the text and photos for reference...appreciated
 
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Thank you for taking the time to be thorough, I took pics of the text and photos for reference...appreciated
Your welcome……. If you have any questions not covered reach out…..
 

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This is my little buddy, Colby. She is a little Tomboy that has a mentality of a dog. Strangest cat I’ve ever seen, she’s obsessed with the Rubi. Always on it , in it , and hanging out with me while working on it. Some of you already know her. Just wanted to give a little background, as you’ll often see her in some of the upcoming pics.
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Holy crap dude your build looks awesome! And cute kitty too? i hope my cats take a liking to my rig once i get it haha. Thank you for the advice and info so far about the lift im thinking of. Trying to follow up here, do all my bars(not just control arms, but the “track” bars i think they are called haha) need to be adjustable? I plan to put 35s on right now, But with a 2.5” diesel rated lift is that enough on a rubi to put 37s on later or would i need the 3.5”? If i needed the 3.5”, besides the lower control arms and fromt track bar, do i need the rear track bar, control arm correction brackets, or worry about the steering and drive shaft? I am sorry for blowing you up with questions, i just honestly dont know anything about jeep, ive been looking around but i dodnt even know about adjustable control arms until you mentioned them haha. Thank you for your help!
 
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Holy crap dude your build looks awesome! And cute kitty too? i hope my cats take a liking to my rig once i get it haha. Thank you for the advice and info so far about the lift im thinking of. Trying to follow up here, do all my bars(not just control arms, but the “track” bars i think they are called haha) need to be adjustable? I plan to put 35s on right now, But with a 2.5” diesel rated lift is that enough on a rubi to put 37s on later or would i need the 3.5”? If i needed the 3.5”, besides the lower control arms and fromt track bar, do i need the rear track bar, control arm correction brackets, or worry about the steering and drive shaft? I am sorry for blowing you up with questions, i just honestly dont know anything about jeep, ive been looking around but i dodnt even know about adjustable control arms until you mentioned them haha. Thank you for your help!
Thanks man…..
yeah, you want at least front lower adjustable control arms, front adjustable track bar. You can get by with a relocation bracket for rear factory track bar. Longer sway bar links, bump stops, springs and shocks…… whatever lift you choose should at least have these things.

Most guys run 35s on 2.5” lift and 37s on 3.5” lift. You can run 37s on 2.5” lift but you’ll have to setup your bump stops accordingly or modify your fenders if you’re going to wheel it.

The steering you can replace as needed, you don’t need to upgrade right away. The driveshaft will only need to be replaced if your shocks extend more than 28”-29”, it doesn’t matter if you’re on 2.5” or 3.5” lift.
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