Cold climate = no go

[Slaw32]

Some people can't stand the truth .

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[2018JLRUSellersremorse]

Read the thread that is posted that I referred to in post #96

I did.. haha you do not "have" to clear it. You do not "have to " idle. What don't you get?

 

[2018JLRUSellersremorse]

Some people can't stand the truth .

When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful & difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid.

 

[mllcb42]

Read the thread that is posted

Sitting and idling is one option, among many, for ensuring the vehicle is up to temperature. It isn't the option I would personally choose, nor do I think it will be the option than others do, as the understanding of the behavior of the vehicle improves.

I'm 100% onboard that communication of what's going on has been poor.

 

[JollieOllie]

.Now that the truth is known and the hard guy has spoken, there is no longer a need to follow this thread.

 

[Slaw32]

.Now that the truth is known and the hard guy has spoken, there is no longer a need to follow this thread.

Yep , please don't . Time to move along .

 

[gerlbaum]

You literally quoted my post in your reply.

You literally quoted my post in your reply.

yup my mistake. I need to pay better attention with who I engage in discussions with.

 

[wranglerbro]

Yep , please don't . Time to move along .

Enjoy the Willy’s forum.

 

[CJ SCION]

People appear to be getting stuck in FORM because the way they're driving doesn't get the oil hot enough. As the weather gets colder, this is happening more. Does that mean the vehicle is broken?

The biggest issue with the FORM problem seems to go back to what's been said many times here; it's the vehicle not behaving how someone thinks it should behave rather than it not behaving how it actually behaves.

I have yet to see a fuel or oil refresh alert, located 43 degrees north latitude. It really wasn't difficult to study up and figure a workable strategy which eliminates the need for the FORM to trigger.

One question , is having to idle this vehicle , after driving it , to get it to proper temperature in the cold weather an efficient use of energy ?

I will answer this question. No, and regardless of what you have read elsewhere, it is not needed. New technology can be great if the end user can be flexible in their thinking. Remember when they went from horses to model Ts? Yeah, the hay and oats didn't cut it in those hand cranked starters.

Life is good with all the options out there. Choose what you prefer and have fun.

 

[Slaw32]

I have yet to see a fuel or oil refresh alert, located 43 degrees north latitude. It really wasn't difficult to study up and figure a workable strategy which eliminates the need for the FORM to trigger.


I will answer this question. No, and regardless of what you have read elsewhere, it is not needed. New technology can be great if the end user can be flexible in their thinking. Remember when they went from horses to model Ts? Yeah, the hay and oats didn't cut it in those hand cranked starters.

Life is good with all the options out there. Choose what you prefer and have fun.

Thanks for answering the question .

 

[OINC]

You sure? Last I checked the EPA dictates emissions laws and as a result of those gas engines are being phased out. So you are 100% wrong. The 392 is discontinued as a direct result of more stringent emissions requirements.

You’re right, it’s 2035 not 2030.

EDIT
I should clarify I’m not against the EPA. No, I don’t want pollution everywhere. I just wish there were better methods to administer it.

Source? For, well, any and all of that.

(The EPA does not make laws. It crafts regulations, which are not the same thing.)

 

[gerlbaum]

Source? For, well, any and all of that.

(The EPA does not make laws. It crafts regulations, which are not the same thing.)

Lol the epa only makes policy? You sure about that? And that policy isn’t enforceable with civil and criminal penalties? Nope. You’re still not correct. The EPA is given those powers by congress and I guess congress can take them away if that’s what you’re confused about.

Regardless, have a good weekend. I’ve learned arguing with jackasses on social media just brings you down to their level.

 

[gerlbaum]

Lol the epa only makes policy? You sure about that? And that policy isn’t enforceable with civil and criminal penalties? Nope. You’re still not correct. The EPA is given those powers by congress and I guess congress can take them away if that’s what you’re confused about.

Regardless, have a good weekend. I’ve learned arguing with jackasses on social media just brings you down to their level.

Source? For, well, any and all of that.

(The EPA does not make laws. It crafts regulations, which are not the same thing.)

fyi if you want a source, go consult a VW corporate attorney. I’m sure they can provide all the juris prudence, in detail, about what happens when you violate federal environmental protection laws which were enforced by the EPAs legal team along with the criminal and civil fines they faced.

Outside that, you win. I’m going on a bicycle ride and enjoying the outside because of the EPAs work then working on my jeep.

Peace!

 

[Slaw32]

Lol the epa only makes policy? You sure about that? And that policy isn’t enforceable with civil and criminal penalties? Nope. You’re still not correct. The EPA is given those powers by congress and I guess congress can take them away if that’s what you’re confused about.

Regardless, have a good weekend. I’ve learned arguing with jackasses on social media just brings you down to their level.

Agreed jackasses and fanboys that don't get it .

 

[ElHobbz]

Is there a tl;dr on this subject?

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