Boating Accident

[Terrymo]

I am sarcastic, and very fun to be around.

Not everything, but a good probably 60% of what I post on here is meant to be read with a sarcastic voice. I understand, that the downside of text based communication is that it is read with your own emotions. So if you are reading my post with a stern overbearing voice, that's on you. I'm guessing you posted this expecting some backlash and then read my post wanting it.

Always tell people around here, that the day I do a stage two tune, you'll never see a picture of my Jeep on this forum again from that point forward. I mean I'm not dumb enough to build the EPA's case for them, but you keep doing you buddy!


@Tread4Lo I didn't realize I posted the same meme above.

It is a good meme! I think it's worthy of a second post! Maybe even a third cuz clearly @harrish24 can't take a joke!

OP has only been here a few months and underestimated you. He hasn’t had time to appreciate the quality and depth of your sarcasm or your enigmatic humor.

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[Tread4Lo]

@scootertoo
1) Delete - to delete diesel emission systems. This includes all, but not limited to EGR, DPF, SCR.
2) DEF - diesel exhaust fluid. What gets pumped into the exhaust system in the SCR to help reduce the already reduced harmful exhaust gases (already reduced by the DPF) into less harmful gases. Reduce in harm, not reduce in terms of volume.
3) Roll coal - the act of overtuning a diesel to pump A LOT of extra diesel that does not get burnt in the cylinder. Which in turn runs it out the exhaust into a giant plume of black smoke.

I think I covered the terms. Pretty interesting stuff truly. There is a lot of chemistry at work in a modern diesel exhaust.

 

[ALeeL]

Anyone want to translate each of these 3 (totally unknown to me) obviously slang terms.....

a lot of the delete/DEF/roll coal threads.

Delete- To remove or makes certain diesel emissions equipment(DPF,EGR,SCR/DEF) inoperable. Similar to deleting the catalytic converter and/or egr on a gas engine.

DEF - Diesel Exhaust Fluid. It is fluid made up of Urea and water that is injected into the Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) catalyst to reduce NOx.

Roll Coal - The act of purposely causing your diesel engine to blow black smoke(PM), which is just unburnt fuel. Old diesels generally did this normally because they only had one injection event per combustion, had much lower injection pressures, and had fixed geometry turbo chargers that did not spool up enough air until higher rpms. Even without a DPF(Diesel Particulate Filter), diesels today run at much higher injection pressures for better atomization of the fuel, has several injection events on the combustion stroke for a complete burn, and have variable geometry turbos that provide enough air at low rpms for less PM than diesels from the 90's and early 2000's.

 

[grimmjeeper]

@scootertoo
1) Delete - to delete diesel emission systems. This includes all, but not limited to EGR, DPF, SCR.
2) DEF - diesel exhaust fluid. What gets pumped into the exhaust system in the SCR to help reduce the already reduced harmful exhaust gases (already reduced by the DPF) into less harmful gases. Reduce in harm, not reduce in terms of volume.
3) Roll coal - the act of overtuning a diesel to pump A LOT of extra diesel that does not get burnt in the cylinder. Which in turn runs it out the exhaust into a giant plume of black smoke.

I think I covered the terms. Pretty interesting stuff truly. There is a lot of chemistry at work in a modern diesel exhaust.

One correction.

DEF is used to reduce nitrogen oxides. It uses ammonia to turn NOx into H2O, CO2, and pure N2. Running diesels hot reduces particulates but generates too much NOx.

DPF is only used to trap particulates.

So the two systems are for separate pollutants.

 

[Twisted10]

Meanwhile, I'd never own a non-deleted diesel.

shit falls off as soon as I buy them. my 22 cummins doesnt have any limp modes.

 

[Tread4Lo]

Thanks for the correction. I am still learning, but what I posted was my thoughts of what I knew. Now I know more. Que the GI Joe meme.

 

[ASSFROW]

@PrimeTime4370 Firearms aren't victims, the same way they are the cause of shootings.

LOL!!

 

[jaymz]

Well, its true. I have 3 deleted vehicles and all 3 do it. Its a nice feature

If all 3 of your deleted vehicles "roll coal", you're doing it wrong.

True, a lot has to do with the stereotype, but I think it is exacerbated by it being seen. I can guarantee what my deleted 328d, that blows out a small puff of black smoke at wide open throttle before it clears up, will draw more ire from people than my old 1970 Mustang 302 at wide open throttle. Even though the Mustang is emitting way more emissions, the fact that the 328d's emissions is seen makes it the evil one.

The 328d gets over 45 mpg and the Mustang gets 10 mpg, but people would rather have my deleted 328d shut down than my old Mustang. I asked my wife, who is not a car person, which one she thinks pollutes more, and she believes it is the 328d simply because it blows a puff of black smoke at WOT and the Mustang didn't.

I think the same goes for trucks as well. I have seen young punks in old gasser Z71's and FX4's act like fools going wide open throttle everywhere they go which is no different than the kids driving their daddy's old Cummins, PSD, or Dmax rolling coal everywhere. I can guarantee that the diesels kids will get more hate than the gasser kids, even though they act the same, simply because their emissions can be seen.

A simple "puff" at WOT isn't rolling coal. Billowing clouds of black smoke for a block or two is. Those people are retarded.

 

[ALeeL]

A simple "puff" at WOT isn't rolling coal. Billowing clouds of black smoke for a block or two is. Those people are retarded.

I agree, but compared to an old gas engine that does not blow any smoke even though it is consuming almost 5 times the fuel and spewing out all sorts of unseen emissions, that little puff of smoke makes it the bad one to non-car people who don't know any better.

 

[rickinAZ]

Orwellian masks? The EPA? It's got to be a Photoshop, right?

 

[AskBin]

Orwellian masks? The EPA? It's got to be a Photoshop, right?

looks like it, the symbol and text arent centered. heres what i found from a reverse image search

 

[Deleted User 38384]

Thanks for the correction. I am still learning, but what I posted was my thoughts of what I knew. Now I know more. Que the GI Joe meme.

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