2023 vs 2024 Willys

[Kaner110]

I just priced out a new 2023 and new 2024 Willys and the 2024 is about $500 cheaper. Is there a reason the newer model costs less? Did they remove features?

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[Maverick909]

the new 24 willys actually is much better than the 23. comes with front and rear dana 44 axles. high top fenders, rear locker, and 33's instead of the 32's it came with in previous models

 

[Kaner110]

the new 24 willys actually is much better than the 23. comes with front and rear dana 44 axles. high top fenders, rear locker, and 33's instead of the 32's it came with in previous models

This is super helpful! Thanks for the detailed response. Definitely makes my decision easier.

 

[Ratbert]

What @Maverick909 said plus make sure you look at the spreadsheet in my sig before ordering one.

 

[jeeperscreepers]

A difference I noticed is you can't get a 6 cyl. with an auto trans. in a '24 Willy's which may be a problem for some.

 

[cycler]

I know this question is like beating a dead horse. However Im new to Jeeps. The closets knowledge I have is getting my wife a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe. Im going back and forth between a 2024 Wrangler 4 door Willys and 4 door Rubicon X. Both of which would be ordered with a 6spd manual. Regardless which I decided to go with. Before taking delivery. The oem clutch would be replaced with a McLeod Racing clutch kit, B&M short shifter and other parts.

If I went for the Willys. Many body color changes would be made. As well as performance changes. Whether I went the 2024 Willys or Rubicon X. The clutch would be upgraded to a difference aftermarket clutch kit. As for the other mods. I will skip them. And go straight to the main question. If I decided on the 2024 Willys along with the Mcleod clutch kit. Along with other upgrades. The 2024 Willys has the Dana 44 front and rear axles.

If I decided to go with 34.7 wheels and tires with a 6spd manual. Would the 4:10 gears be just enough? I keep reading on some posts that 4.56 is the perfect sweet spot with a manual and 35 set up. While other posts say that 4.88 is the sweet spot with 35 tires wheels. Most of my driving would be highway miles with 40% no traffic driving. I am looking for the optimal mpg. Along with best performance if I go off trail. As for a short shifter I would get the B&M unit. Any input on best mph mods installed would be appreciated.

If we were discussing european cars with a 6spd. I could really help out.

 

[Rogues Gambit]

Its the Black Diamond of the Jeeps now, or a Rubicon Lite

Rubi offers 4.88 for sticks and steel bumpers plus I think a front locker, but doesn’t mean Willys are bad, theyre still a solid choice, offering lottas bang for the buck. If you’re not a stick guy, then a Willys Xtreme Recon is a solid choice to boot

 

[RAD1]

I know this question is like beating a dead horse. However Im new to Jeeps. The closets knowledge I have is getting my wife a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe. Im going back and forth between a 2024 Wrangler 4 door Willys and 4 door Rubicon X. Both of which would be ordered with a 6spd manual. Regardless which I decided to go with. Before taking delivery. The oem clutch would be replaced with a McLeod Racing clutch kit, B&M short shifter and other parts.

If I went for the Willys. Many body color changes would be made. As well as performance changes. Whether I went the 2024 Willys or Rubicon X. The clutch would be upgraded to a difference aftermarket clutch kit. As for the other mods. I will skip them. And go straight to the main question. If I decided on the 2024 Willys along with the Mcleod clutch kit. Along with other upgrades. The 2024 Willys has the Dana 44 front and rear axles.

If I decided to go with 34.7 wheels and tires with a 6spd manual. Would the 4:10 gears be just enough? I keep reading on some posts that 4.56 is the perfect sweet spot with a manual and 35 set up. While other posts say that 4.88 is the sweet spot with 35 tires wheels. Most of my driving would be highway miles with 40% no traffic driving. I am looking for the optimal mpg. Along with best performance if I go off trail. As for a short shifter I would get the B&M unit. Any input on best mph mods installed would be appreciated.

If we were discussing european cars with a 6spd. I could really help out.

Unfortunately we can't get the XR w 35's and 6sp manual. XR gives you the 4.56 which is likely the sweet spot given Jeep engineers developed the XR w that ratio. 4.88 if you're doing more rock crawling. But 4.10 is prob best for highway and mpg.

The 2023 Willys came with 3.45 so 4.10 will be an improvement.

 

[Red Willy]

Our Jeeps ('21 Willys V6 manual, 33's, 4.11 gears, and '23 JLUXR, auto, 35's, 4.56 gears) seem perfect for on road and most off road. Both are getting around 18 mpg in town.

 

[Gangplank]

Wow just built a 2024 similar to my 2021. Requires 2.0T vs 3.6 but otherwise similar. Cost would be $50k+ over 10% increase in 3 years. Ouch

 

[TexasJeeper]

Remember that tow/haul/aux switches are also now included in the Willy’s package. If only you could get it with the front cam.

 

[aldo98229]

2024 might be “cheaper” but we have fewer options.

From what I recall:

1. The V6 is gone from Sahara. The manual transmission is gone as well
2. Selec-Trac is gone from Sport, Willys and Sahara. The only way to get it now is to buy a 4Xe
3. LSD is gone from Sport and Sahara, the only way to get it now is to buy a 4Xe
4. High Altitude is now 4Xe ONLY
5. EcoDiesel is gone across the board
6. Many stand alone options are gone from Rubicon. If you want them, you have to step up to a Rubicon X

I simply cannot order what I currently own any more: V6, auto, Selec-Trac, LSD.

Jeep is giving me NO reasons to order a 2024. The larger screen and added airbags don’t cut it.

 

[Ratbert]

I know this question is like beating a dead horse. However Im new to Jeeps. The closets knowledge I have is getting my wife a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe. Im going back and forth between a 2024 Wrangler 4 door Willys and 4 door Rubicon X. Both of which would be ordered with a 6spd manual. Regardless which I decided to go with. Before taking delivery. The oem clutch would be replaced with a McLeod Racing clutch kit, B&M short shifter and other parts.

If I went for the Willys. Many body color changes would be made. As well as performance changes. Whether I went the 2024 Willys or Rubicon X. The clutch would be upgraded to a difference aftermarket clutch kit. As for the other mods. I will skip them. And go straight to the main question. If I decided on the 2024 Willys along with the Mcleod clutch kit. Along with other upgrades. The 2024 Willys has the Dana 44 front and rear axles.

If I decided to go with 34.7 wheels and tires with a 6spd manual. Would the 4:10 gears be just enough? I keep reading on some posts that 4.56 is the perfect sweet spot with a manual and 35 set up. While other posts say that 4.88 is the sweet spot with 35 tires wheels. Most of my driving would be highway miles with 40% no traffic driving. I am looking for the optimal mpg. Along with best performance if I go off trail. As for a short shifter I would get the B&M unit. Any input on best mph mods installed would be appreciated.

If we were discussing european cars with a 6spd. I could really help out.

If mileage is your primarily concern then I'm not sure that a Wrangler is the best vehicle for you. It's simply horrible from an aerodynamic perspective and is incredibly heavy. Including large, heavy tires to improve your off road performance hurts mileage even more.

Make sure you test drive similarly-equipped Wranglers with manuals and automatics. I bought my first one (a manual Rubicon with 33s & 4.10s) without realizing how poorly it performed in comparison to an automatic. I should have known better, but I've always loved driving manuals.

Heads-up that rock crawling is more challenging with a manual. I foolishly thought that that would be a good thing since I love challenges, but no, it wasn't. Remember that we typically don't do things like putting smaller tires on to make the trails more challenging.

 

[Rogues Gambit]

mileage? Whats that? Bronco/Jeep, we dont get these beasts for mileage now

 

[Garan]

A difference I noticed is you can't get a 6 cyl. with an auto trans. in a '24 Willy's which may be a problem for some.

This is why I ordered the Rubicon rather than the Willy's. That and also the 4.10 gear ratio.

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