2.0 v 3.6 maintenance

[Cux211]

I don’t know what sort of trick I’m missing, but I’ve never been able to drop a drain plug without it spilling all over my hand or arm.
I put a fumoto valve on our jeeps and would never, ever change oil again without putting one of those on. Zero spill.
Same with cartridge/canister, there’s always a little spill with canister under the car, but I can usually get zero mess changing the cartridge on top.

open oil cap to release pressure, open fumoto valve with hose into jug under car, let drain. Open cartridge and change filter, close fumoto, put in oil. Done. Maybe one or two paper towels worth of drips and dirty hands.

Lol really I’d love to see you drain a Cummins then with 13 quarts rocketing straight down like a fire hose hahaha I’d pay to see that, anyway I’ve done dozens of changes on Cummins and very rarely ever get my hand

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[Squibbles]

You can pull that plug and get zero oil on you at all. I'll take a drop in filter any day, much simpler IMHO. But hey I haven't changed the oil on the 2.0....

I’ll be honest on my VW with a canister filter I just sucked the oil out if I didn’t use a rack but on a wrangler it’s so much easier to get under it and the canister filter is probably going to mean the difference between needing jack stands and not. With the rubicon I needed another 8 inches or so to get under and get enough leverage on the filter. So far only one oil change on the 2.0 at 500 miles to switch to amsoil and it was such a pain mainly because the oil filter was over tightened from the factory. All my wrenches kept slipping and I wound up twisting the filter it was so over tightened the filter wall failed before it came loose. Another bonus of the cartridge is it’s a lot easier to inspect.

 

[XJfanatic]

I’ll be honest on my VW with a canister filter I just sucked the oil out if I didn’t use a rack but on a wrangler it’s so much easier to get under it and the canister filter is probably going to mean the difference between needing jack stands and not. With the rubicon I needed another 8 inches or so to get under and get enough leverage on the filter. So far only one oil change on the 2.0 at 500 miles to switch to amsoil and it was such a pain mainly because the oil filter was over tightened from the factory. All my wrenches kept slipping and I wound up twisting the filter it was so over tightened the filter wall failed before it came loose. Another bonus of the cartridge is it’s a lot easier to inspect.

I have done 3 oil changes on my 2.0t so far and the filter has been stuck every damn time. I have twisted two to the point where I have had to use channel locks to get them off.

 

[srt20]

Oil changes are easy on both.
Spark plugs require intake of on 3.6. It’s not that big of a deal. if you aren’t confident in your ability, then maybe let someone else do it. But its not turbo, so should be good for 100k with iridium plugs.
I haven’t changed plugs on 2.0 yet, but I expect it is even easier. IDK what the manual calls for, but since it’s a turbo, I will probably change around 60k.

I wouldn’t base my car buying decision on ease of maintenance. If you want to though, maybe a Jeep isn’t the right vehicle.

 

[limeade]

Seems like the oil change on the 2.0T has been well covered.

I just recently changed the spark plugs on mine and it was very easy. I watched some videos and all of them stated to disconnect a wiring harness or two in order to get to one of the plugs. I was able to remove the coils and plugs without having to disconnect any wiring. You have to remove the engine cover (2 bolts), unbolt each coil, and then replace the plugs. I used a normal spark plug socket with a long extension and was able to get all of them out and new ones back in without a problem. Besides changing the plugs on a pushrod GM V-8, this was one of the easiest engines to change plugs on. I wish the Hemi in my Ram was this easy.

 

[mwilk012]

That’s why you don’t let dealers change your oil lol it’s 99.9% of the time not a mechanic doing it it’s some $10 an hour oil monkey

That’s an awfully hateful way to refer to people who are generally young and just getting started in the field of auto repair. You know, they have families too.

 

[Slippery Pete]

I’ll be honest on my VW with a canister filter I just sucked the oil out if I didn’t use a rack but on a wrangler it’s so much easier to get under it and the canister filter is probably going to mean the difference between needing jack stands and not. With the rubicon I needed another 8 inches or so to get under and get enough leverage on the filter. So far only one oil change on the 2.0 at 500 miles to switch to amsoil and it was such a pain mainly because the oil filter was over tightened from the factory. All my wrenches kept slipping and I wound up twisting the filter it was so over tightened the filter wall failed before it came loose. Another bonus of the cartridge is it’s a lot easier to inspect.

Same thing happened to me. That sucker was on tight.

 

[Cux211]

That’s an awfully hateful way to refer to people who are generally young and just getting started in the field of auto repair. You know, they have families too.

Well if they cared about other peoples property (major majority doesn’t) maybe I’d be nicer. That’s what’s wrong with the world to much pansy ass kitten gloves bs, if I had a shop and one of my people left a customers vehicle all shitted up they’d get one warning if they’re lucky then booted out the door. I’m a lineman and when I came through the apprenticeship years ago those old timers were rough if you did something wrong you bet your ass you didn’t do it again because those guys would go batshit on you and more than likely on top of the screamin there was usually an airborne tool or two in your direction as well

 

[R4D4R]

I wouldn’t base my car buying decision on ease of maintenance. If you want to though, maybe a Jeep isn’t the right vehicle.

I was going to let this go, but stuff like this really irks me. Ease of maintenance should absolutely be a consideration when buying a new car. Im going to think twice on a purchase if I have to replace a timing chain at 60k miles, or lose 3 quarts of oil all over your control arms because an oil filter is in a garbage location. Total cost of ownership and maintenance is a big consideration. Im not going to go through my entire wrenching CV, but Ive put over 300,000 miles over several jeeps in 20 years and have done 95% of the work on all of them myself, so maybe you should think twice on saying a Jeep isnt right for someone. Ease of maintenance should be a requirement on a new car purchase.

 

[mwilk012]

Well if they cared about other peoples property (major majority doesn’t) maybe I’d be nicer. That’s what’s wrong with the world to much pansy ass kitten gloves bs, if I had a shop and one of my people left a customers vehicle all shitted up they’d get one warning if they’re lucky then booted out the door. I’m a lineman and when I came through the apprenticeship years ago those old timers were rough if you did something wrong you bet your ass you didn’t do it again because those guys would go batshit on you and more than likely on top of the screamin there was usually an airborne tool or two in your direction as well

Yea, you’re the problem.

 

[Cux211]

Yea, you’re the problem.

Bahahaha yep ok, if I’m the problem for holding people accountable for being asshats then that’s awesome I’ll take it all day

 

[Tncdrew]

I've never removed a spin on oil filter without oil running down its sides. Always a cleanup of some degree.
Had a couple BMW's, and a Volvo, and now this 3.6L JL with a drop in element type oil filter, and love it!
That, plus the addition of a Fumoto valve on the pan, and oil changes are a snap! Drain with a tube right into a container so I don't even get out a pan anymore!
And yes, the ability to be able to inspect the old filter element is nice too! ?

 

[srt20]

I was going to let this go, but stuff like this really irks me. Ease of maintenance should absolutely be a consideration when buying a new car. Im going to think twice on a purchase if I have to replace a timing chain at 60k miles, or lose 3 quarts of oil all over your control arms because an oil filter is in a garbage location. Total cost of ownership and maintenance is a big consideration. Im not going to go through my entire wrenching CV, but Ive put over 300,000 miles over several jeeps in 20 years and have done 95% of the work on all of them myself, so maybe you should think twice on saying a Jeep isnt right for someone. Ease of maintenance should be a requirement on a new car purchase.

Sorry you got butthurt. I’m glad you can do 95% of the work. You should be smart enough to figure out how not to spill 3 qts of oil then.

 

[mwilk012]

Bahahaha yep ok, if I’m the problem for holding people accountable for being asshats then that’s awesome I’ll take it all day

You’re not holding anyone “accountable” by referring to them as monkeys and deriding them based on career choice. You’re just being an ass.

 

[Cux211]

You’re not holding anyone “accountable” by referring to them as monkeys and deriding them based on career choice. You’re just being an ass.

I never knocked anybody for career choice and never would, I think you’re reading more into it or making up your own narrative, I have several good friends that are mechanics(some own shops) and very good ones at that and they feel the same way about those jackasses that shit customers vehicles up. It seems like you’re twisting this into something it’s not.

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