end of 2019 orders and start of 2020?

[piloto]

I wish I could buy more than 4 gallons of additional gas from this dealer.

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[Jeeperz Kreeperz]

Someone in the 'Northeast Group Buy' thread said he received a build sheet for 2020 that had the same base MSRP as mine, but no change in auto trans. Hopefully it's just an early glitch. I'm going to wait a bit to find out. That person noted that his 3.6 V6 'base option' showed a $1000 MSRP vs 0 on mine so maybe they are having some growing pains switching to 2020.

That someone was me. 2020 build sheet received today. Will post it up momentarily...

 

[ffo4kooch]

I wish I could buy more than 4 gallons of additional gas from this dealer.

Must be an FCA thing as that line is on build sheets from 4 different dealers.... I like how it's MSRP $0, Invoice $10.

 

[Jeeperz Kreeperz]

Someone in the 'Northeast Group Buy' thread said he received a build sheet for 2020 that had the same base MSRP as mine, but no change in auto trans. Hopefully it's just an early glitch. I'm going to wait a bit to find out. That person noted that his 3.6 V6 'base option' showed a $1000 MSRP vs 0 on mine so maybe they are having some growing pains switching to 2020.

Attached is my 2020 build sheet received this morning. The one posted above from @ffo4kooch was for a Rubicon, and mine is for a Sahara. Can't see how that should cause a difference in price of the same transmission, but maybe there's a plausible explanation in there somewhere.

I haven’t done my homework on the latest 2020 options, so this line confused me:

ERG 3.6L V6 24V VVT eTorque Engine Upg I $1,000 MSRP $890 FWP

I’m assuming the “ERG” code on my build sheet is the V6 with belt start generator model, and the “ERC” sales code on the build sheet above from @ffo4kooch is the base V6 with Electronic Stop Start (ESS).

FYI: I requested the base V6 engine. After discovering this upcharge, I asked the salesman if he could confirm all of the engine options (just to make sure there are no mystery diesel or hybrid options buried in there!). Still awaiting that answer as well.

 

[ffo4kooch]

That someone was me. 2020 build sheet received today. Will post it up momentarily...

Just noticed you're from NH. I got my build sheet from a NH dealer, as I'm just over the border in southern Maine.

 

[Jeeperz Kreeperz]

Just noticed you're from NH. I got my build sheet from a NH dealer, as I'm just over the border in southern Maine.

And my build sheet is from a dealer in CT. Funny how the grass is always greener...

 

[Solidaxle]

Attached is my 2020 build sheet received this morning. The one posted above from @ffo4kooch was for a Rubicon, and mine is for a Sahara. Can't see how that should cause a difference in price of the same transmission, but maybe there's a plausible explanation in there somewhere. What has me confused is the sales code:

ERG 3.6L V6 24V VVT eTorque Engine Upg I $1,000 MSRP $890 FWP

Isn't the eTorque the nomenclature for the 4 cylinder turbo? I asked the dealer, but no answer as of yet.

FYI: I requested the V6 engine. After discovering this upcharge, I asked the salesman if he could confirm all of the engine options (just to make sure there are no mystery diesel or hybrid options buried in there!). Still awaiting that answer as well.

Base 3.6 no charge
BSG 3.6 1K upcharge
BSG 2.0 Turbo 2K upcharge

 

[Jeeperz Kreeperz]

Base 3.6 no charge
BSG 3.6 1K upcharge
BSG 2.0 Turbo 2K upcharge

Thanks. Just discovered that myself, and edited my post while you were responding!

 

[Carlton]

Base 3.6 no charge
BSG 3.6 1K upcharge
BSG 2.0 Turbo 2K upcharge

Is this a guess or confirmed?
If confirmed, is there a HP or Torque gain with the BSG?

 

[ffo4kooch]

Attached is my 2020 build sheet received this morning. The one posted above from @ffo4kooch was for a Rubicon, and mine is for a Sahara. Can't see how that should cause a difference in price of the same transmission, but maybe there's a plausible explanation in there somewhere.

I haven’t done my homework on the latest 2020 options, so this line confused me:

ERG 3.6L V6 24V VVT eTorque Engine Upg I $1,000 MSRP $890 FWP

I’m assuming the “ERG” code on my build sheet is the V6 with belt start generator model, and the “ERC” sales code on the build sheet above from @ffo4kooch is the base V6 with Electronic Stop Start (ESS).

FYI: I requested the base V6 engine. After discovering this upcharge, I asked the salesman if he could confirm all of the engine options (just to make sure there are no mystery diesel or hybrid options buried in there!). Still awaiting that answer as well.

Hmmm, why is my Auto Trans. with same Sales Code $500 more.....

 

[Carlton]

Hmmm, why is my Auto Trans. with same Sales Code $500 more.....

If not a mistake, it sounds like they are up charging the auto trans for the base engine. Essentially charging $500 to put the base engine in the jeep...

Hopefully this isn't the case and just an error.

 

[piloto]

Base 3.6 no charge
BSG 3.6 1K upcharge
BSG 2.0 Turbo 2K upcharge

I can't see them changing the 2.0T to be a $2K option versus the $1K option it is now. If that's really the case, it'll basically be a $4K option unless it suddenly becomes available with a 6MT.

 

[piloto]

If not a mistake, it sounds like they are up charging the auto trans for the base engine. Essentially charging $500 to put the base engine in the jeep...

Hopefully this isn't the case and just an error.

Could be. If their CAFE numbers are affected by the popularity of the base 3.6, this could be their way to try and incentivize people to move to the 3.6 BSG or 2.0T, on the basis that they are more powerful. But for $500, I'd be happy that they still offer the base 3.6, when the alternative is only having BSG engines.

 

[Carlton]

Could be. If their CAFE numbers are affected by the popularity of the base 3.6, this could be their way to try and incentivize people to move to the 3.6 BSG or 2.0T, on the basis that they are more powerful. But for $500, I'd be happy that they still offer the base 3.6, when the alternative is only having BSG engines.

You would think that they would make one of the other two the base model engine and up charge the Pentastar V6 if it is based on CAFE.

The way it stands currently (looks to stand) there is no free engine option. No matter what you choose there is an upcharge...

 

[HealthRebel]

Base 3.6 no charge
BSG 3.6 1K upcharge
BSG 2.0 Turbo 2K upcharge

The BSG on the 3.6 V6 is exciting news. It should really boost that engine with more torque under 1500 rpm, which is where it needs it! It might even be a lot faster than the 2.0 turbo.

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