Power cutoff for Winch

[Terrymo]

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[Terrymo]

Buy the right winch and no switches, solenoids, or fuses needed. Keep your Amsoil winch line lubed with Amsoil motor oil.

 

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[Terrymo]

Amsoil really is the best beer.

It really is!

 

[Wabujitsu]

I can see a humorous trend starting…

 

[azjl#3]

Nothing needs a fuse.

 

[TheRaven]

Joking aside Kevin (see my last post above), if my mechanical switch fails, it will either leave the line hot, or it will leave it disconnected. It’s a simple rotating manual switch, nothing fancy about it. It can be in an “always on” or “always off” state if it fails. As others have said, if it fails in the field in “always off,” I can easily bypass it a number of simple ways.

In this context, we are talking about current handling...the argument here is centered around the idea that a winch draws way too much current to be properly protected by a switch or fuse. Thus, it is reasonable to assume that the overwhelming majority of switch/disconnect failures will be due to overcurrent and that means that the switch/disconnect will "fail" closed. In addition, if you have a high quality switch, it is incredibly unlikely to "fail" open.

Obviously there is always the outlying possibility of the unlikely occurring, but as I always say - a piano could fall on your head at any time...are you going to live your life in an underground bunker because of that?

 

[Terrymo]

I can see a humorous trend starting…

This thread could use some comic relief...or maybe I just have nothing useful to add.

 

[Maverick909]

Now we are comparing potatoes and tomatoes. You are correct. Everyone is free to do what they wish with their Jeep but if someone asks a question, I will give them an honest answer. Should we weld our lug nuts on in case they are not torqued to spec? i’m sure somebody has, but the mathematical odds tell most of us not to bother. Same applies for a cutoff on a winch. People keep mentioning that section of the catalogue (not in the winch section) but there is nothing in the warn winch manual or any other winch manufacturers manual that says it is recommended or required to install one for the winch. If you call their customer service, they will tell you that you can, but it is not needed, just like welding on your lug nuts so they don’t fall off. Carry on and good day!

my badlands winch came with a disconnect. I have installed the disconnect in both my jeep and my brothers as winches can give off parisitic draw and drain the battery. And i do need my winch on the daily so its nice to know that i can keep the power disconnected until i am out wheeling. just my 2 cents. to each their own

 

[Zandcwhite]

my badlands winch came with a disconnect. I have installed the disconnect in both my jeep and my brothers as winches can give off parisitic draw and drain the battery. And i do need my winch on the daily so its nice to know that i can keep the power disconnected until i am out wheeling. just my 2 cents. to each their own

Most winches don't/ can't have parasitic draw by design. Just because Warn failed so hard designing their Bluetooth control that IT is known to drain the battery in not only the remote but also sometimes the vehicle doesn't mean they all do. Any winch that only offers a plug in remote can't draw any power until the controller is plugged in. Solenoids don't close until the coil is energized. The controller works as a 3 position switch. If it's unplugged it's off period.

 

[Wabujitsu]

In this context, we are talking about current handling...the argument here is centered around the idea that a winch draws way too much current to be properly protected by a switch or fuse. Thus, it is reasonable to assume that the overwhelming majority of switch/disconnect failures will be due to overcurrent and that means that the switch/disconnect will "fail" closed. In addition, if you have a high quality switch, it is incredibly unlikely to "fail" open.

Obviously there is always the outlying possibility of the unlikely occurring, but as I always say - a piano could fall on your head at any time...are you going to live your life in an underground bunker because of that?

As the switch came with the winch and the manual instructs its use, I can safely assume that it’s rated for the approximately 280 maximum amp draw of the winch. Thank you for the additional information, sir.

The manual also recommends soaking the switch in Amsoil everyday, to make it super duper impervious to failure.

 

[Wabujitsu]

This thread could use some comic relief...or maybe I just have nothing useful to add.

Hey brother, I’m trying!!!

 

[TheRaven]

Hey brother, I’m trying!!!

Memes. That's what you're missing. The crowd here only responds to memes.

 

[Wabujitsu]

Most winches don't/ can't have parasitic draw by design. Just because Warn failed so hard designing their Bluetooth control that IT is known to drain the battery in not only the remote but also sometimes the vehicle doesn't mean they all do. Any winch that only offers a plug in remote can't draw any power until the controller is plugged in. Solenoids don't close until the coil is energized. The controller works as a 3 position switch. If it's unplugged it's off period.

Additionally Zach, as the Apex winch has been brought up by I and others, that particular winch also has a switch that cuts off the wireless remote.

 

[Terrymo]

Memes. That's what you're missing. The crowd here only responds to memes.

Maybe we can be friends after all

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