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That's what I thought. Thanks for confirming. Take this for what it's worth. Although I've never seen or witnessed first hand I have heard horror stories of cars that have a harness support bar during a rollover the front seats were not able to lower the seat back because of the bar being in the way. In a rollover you want the fronts to fall flat so you don't get crushed by the roof collapse. There is another thread currently talking about whether it is safe to sit on top of the rollbar. Some are asking why you'd sit there while others are talking about actual rollovers and the bar being able to support that without crushing. I ran one years ago in my Evo particularly during SCCA events. Eventually stepped up to a real rollbar.
 

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Although I've never seen or witnessed first hand I have heard horror stories of cars that have a harness support bar during a rollover the front seats were not able to lower the seat back because of the bar being in the way.

In a rollover you want the fronts to fall flat so you don't get crushed by the roof collapse.
I take your point, but what about the engineered-in strength of passenger seating? They're designed to not crumple (i.e., fold) during the force of a collision. The intent is to anchor the belted passengers in place for maximum safety...e.g., so that they make contact with fixed-position airbags as circumstances may warrant.

Taking the broad view here, I wouldn't want my seats to "fall" in any manner that would arguably constitute a design failure. This could cause a fatal outcome if, for example, the front seats fall backwards with extreme force onto the passengers in the rear seats, which may be immovable due to the vehicle's design (like a sedan.)
 

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I take your point, but what about the engineered-in strength of passenger seating? They're designed to not crumple (i.e., fold) during the force of a collision. The intent is to anchor the belted passengers in place for maximum safety...e.g., so that they make contact with fixed-position airbags as circumstances may warrant.

Taking the broad view here, I wouldn't want my seats to "fall" in any manner that would arguably constitute a design failure.
Every situation being a little different, yes airbags were likely designed with front/back/side impacts in mind. They don't put airbags on the roof however. That's where the rollbar comes into play and also where it took my mind based on the other thread discussing the bar being a useful chair.
 

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I tried to install the Tuffy console insert. Instead of slamming it off the concrete I decided to put it back in the box and ready to ship back to Amazon. What and awful design for people with no patience or big hands or both. Then I put dielectric grease on most of my seals to see if I can quiet down the popping since day one. Fingers crossed.
 

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I tried to install the Tuffy console insert. Instead of slamming it off the concrete I decided to put it back in the box and ready to ship back to Amazon. What and awful design for people with no patience or big hands or both. Then I put dielectric grease on most of my seals to see if I can quiet down the popping since day one. Fingers crossed.
It is a pain, literally and figuratively. The install took me a while but after a couple hours of frustration, blood, sweat, tears, and much cursing, I finally got the thing in there. I like it fine now. It's also very handy to lock up little things when my doors are off.
 
 







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