Dealership employees would know a lot more by spending 15 minutes on Jeep.com and actually reading about their own products. They don't need to go to a car show to not look like complete idiots when talking to potential customers about what they are selling or servicing, just type in j... e....e....p.... . ... c....o... m into a browser and read! Com'on Amazon, PLEASE start selling new cars directly so we can avoid the nightmare of having to walk into a dealership.
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Omg, your not suggesting folks who do this for a living to educate themselves about the product they are working on or selling? How dare you! They would require a little extra work!
You would be correct, up to 30” at 5 mph of fording water and there should not be any water intrusion to the vehicle.
Did you read my whole post or just skim and replied like an armchair quarterback?
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Two of the other members on here suggested I look at the tailgate for the water fording capabilities.
They were 100% right, I just happed to have a photo of where I scratched my JL the first week I got it.
It is written on the JL tailgate capability of 30” at 5mph of water fording.
My concern is Mopar ideal was for the floor mats to be water tight and like their 2” lift they have a problem with the production of the part to where there is a problem.
The only way they know they have a problem to correct is from us the consumer letting them know.
With the all weather floor mats there is no instructions. At least mine did not come with any from the factory.
And I hear ya on keeping the floor pan plug in place.
You are inferring something that isn't the case. 30" of fording means the engine is safe from hydrolocking, and there would be no damage to the axles or mechanical components. It says nothing about getting wet carpets. Automotive seals, be it on a G Wagon, a Range Rover, or a wrangler, are not marine grade, nor are they watertight. Now, while you may have zero water intrusion if you dip in and out of a 30" hole, if you are crossing a river, meaning, you will be submerged for a prolonged period, the water will start dribbling its way in, which is why Jeep gave you drain holes in the floor. Seasoned Jeep guys know, that if they are going to be doing water crossings regularly, it's just easier to pull the carpets, maybe even line-x the interior, and have no issues with water, but this nonsense of it being "watertight?" NO chance.
I’m not trying to be a smart ass
Why on earth would you remove the drain plugs before entering water? Drain plugs are there to keep water out, and drain water if necessary. You are not supposed to keep them open. The drain plugs in the mats from what I saw were very tight, and they get even tighter when you reinsert the stock plugs into the mats.I’m not trying to be a smart ass
If you look at the photo that is of a JL tailgate it shows the water line of 30” this is WAY below the air intake. And not that deep. It’s only 30”
I’m not referring to a dribble of water coming into the vehicle. If you pull both front drain plugs out and enter 30” of water regardless if it’s just a dip or prolong your JL is going to fill with water like the Titanic. By removing the drain plugs for the factory all weather floor mats there is no longer a tight seal in the floor pan. This is what I’m reffering to. There are a few guys who posted that their floor mats have a tight fit and not a problem while others are like mine flopping around
My name isn't Kevin, sir!Here is a photo of Kevin’s water crossing, it’s not that deep and his Jeep filled with water!
Per the dealership rep, this is normal?
Does this look like deep water to you?
My name isn't Kevin, sir!
