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Fords competition has brought us the 392 and the XR . But there inability to deliver hasn’t done a thing to bring prices down
Not yet. Let's face it the pandemic is what is troubling Ford right now. Once the Bronco is flying off the assembly line and this pandemic is over things will change. Prices will change. Competition like this is the best thing to happen. And I agree Jeep fans should thank Ford for the 392 and the XR package.
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Fords competition has brought us the 392 and the XR . But there inability to deliver hasn’t done a thing to bring prices down
With everything that has gone wrong with Fords Bronco makes be so glad I canceled. Now they announced the Bronco Raptor. I saw one today drive and it doesnt no look good IMHO
 

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Does anybody else find it comical that the same guy who argued $35k base models should come with power windows and ac because "nobody wants a $30k+ stripped rig" started a thread about a $60k stripped 392? Are we pushing for more features across the board or stripped rigs with the drivetrains we want here? A stripped 392 could only be so stripped, as I wouldn't trust the support axles to hold up to that power. I'm all for ditching the color matched fenders and hard top, but why buy a 392 in non-rubicon trim? A really quick street jeep that is still slow due to tire limitations? Dropping the small amount of features a wheeler wouldn't want isn't bringing the price down to $60k, color match and leather? You're still looking at $70k.
 
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Not yet. Let's face it the pandemic is what is troubling Ford right now. Once the Bronco is flying off the assembly line and this pandemic is over things will change. Prices will change. Competition like this is the best thing to happen. And I agree Jeep fans should thank Ford for the 392 and the XR package.
Does anybody else find it comical that the same guy who argued $35k base models should come with power windows and ac because "nobody wants a $30k+ stripped rig" started a thread about a $60k stripped 392? Are we pushing for more features across the board or stripped rigs with the drivetrains we want here? A stripped 392 could only be so stripped, as I wouldn't trust the support axles to hold up to that power. I'm all for ditching the color matched fenders and hard top, but why buy a 392 in non-rubicon trim? A really quick street jeep that is still slow due to tire limitations? Dropping the small amount of features a wheeler wouldn't want isn't bringing the price down to $60k, color match and leather? You're still looking at $70k.
No just you do because you don't comprehend or understand anything that I say!! I never said "nobody wants a stripped rig" please show me where I said that?!? What I said was its insane that Jeep charges extra for AC and power windows and locks!!!!!

I'll take a stripped rig any day of the week as long as it's priced accordingly! Heck I'd by a stripped 2 doorJeep Sport with crank windows and no AC for $25k not $35k+ Lol..

Let's face it Jeep is over priced in just about every configuration. But like others have said above people are happy to pay it so why should they change? Hook line and sinker!
 

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No just you do because you don't comprehend or understand anything that I say!! I never said "nobody wants a stripped rig" please show me where I said that?!? What I said was its insane that Jeep charges extra for AC and power windows and locks!!!!!

I'll take a stripped rig any day of the week as long as it's priced accordingly! Heck I'd by a stripped 2 doorJeep Sport with crank windows and no AC for $25k not $35k+ Lol..

Let's face it Jeep is over priced in just about every configuration. But like others have said above people are happy to pay it so why should they change? Hook line and sinker!
Overpriced, a loaded f150 is pushing $100k these days. The average home price out here is $1.2 million. The world is over priced. Nobody is going to suddenly sell a product that they struggle to keep up with demand for less. That’s just not how the world works. Again, bronco pricing is in line with wrangler pricing from bottom to top. I’ll agree that everything is over priced, but welcome to the world we live in. Trx launch editions were $100k, and sold out in 3 hours. A model s averages $120k. The fact of the matter is there are a shit ton of people out there who don’t bat an eye dropping $70k plus on a vehicle. It isn’t going to get better…ever.
 

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With everything that has gone wrong with Fords Bronco makes be so glad I canceled. Now they announced the Bronco Raptor. I saw one today drive and it doesnt no look good IMHO
But can you think of a better reason to keep producing the 392???
 

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But can you think of a better reason to keep producing the 392???
Now that raptor version of bronco is confirmed and teased it might make Jeep push for the 392 as long as Stellantis approves
 

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You lost me at unique seats!! ? I use the Scat Pack for reference because say it with me ALL JEEPS ARE OVERPRICED!! Sure if you use another Jeep to justify the ridiculous price you can make some kind of case. ..

Tell me this if it's not overpriced Why can I get a brand new RAM TRX for $72k msrp with a 702hp Supercharged monster engine for less then the 392 Jeep.

Maybe I'm missing something. Tell me more about these "unique seats"? Do they give hand jbs? I sure hope so. ?

The seats are slightly more bolstered than my ‘18.

Hope you end up getting what you want ??
 

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Well whatever the reason if they offered one for $56kish I would buy it along with a million other people.
You wouldn’t because you’d find something inane to bitch about and create a thread about why everyone else is stupid for settling for one and you’re not going to.

See every one of your threads for examples.

Oh and because it hasn’t been said in a while: Scat Pack.
 
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You wouldn’t because you’d find something inane to bitch about and create a thread about why everyone else is stupid for settling for one and you’re not going to.

See every one of your threads for examples.

Oh and because it hasn’t been said in a while: Scat Pack.
I am not calling anyone stupid here at all. I'm saying Jeep has been taking advantage of its loyal customers for years. Only now can we justify their high prices because of inflation. Before it was because people would just pony up and pay. When I buy a Jeep in 2022 I guess I'll be stupid too.
 

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I am not calling anyone stupid here at all. I'm saying Jeep has been taking advantage of its loyal customers for years. Only now can we justify their high prices because of inflation. Before it was because people would just pony up and pay. When I buy a Jeep in 2022 I guess I'll be stupid too.
You’re right, you’ve never said outright anyone is but you heavily imply it because they’ve bought something you won’t justify.

Like it or not the amount of people like you (and me, honestly) who want a performance vehicle without bells and whistles is extremely small (I hate leather seats with a passion but can’t get power passenger seats, barely can find heated seats or even comfortable seats without “leather” which must people don’t even realize is synthetic most of the time) and there is very little profit in them so manufacturers don’t like to build them. They generally offer a stripped down econobox or a loaded premier when you go to buy.

You think there is a huge demand for affordable performance but there’s just not, at least not to the point you think there is. 98% of people want the look without the hassle and want to feel like they are being pampered and can show off their new purchase every time they get in. They don’t care about a V8, heritage or anything but the look. To most, cloth seats and no buzzy, beefy flashy light things ain’t the look. How many Denalis, Premiers, SX, Limiteds, etc. get sold in this country for no other reasons than status?

Think about it: whether I’m building a basic model or a loaded behemoth, the process is exactly the same, you just grab different modules from the pile. So why would I as a company spend the same labor rate to build a car to sell at $50K when I can sell one at $80K and people are buying them up left and right?

Like it or not Jeep is not your friend and not out to make you a good deal, they are in the business to make money. To do that, they need a demand. So they create a false one, the 392, mark it up to hell and sell them at a premium to make that money. As long as the sell is there, they’ll keep it up. And it is.
 
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You’re right, you’ve never said outright anyone is but you heavily imply it because they’ve bought something you won’t justify.

Like it or not the amount of people like you (and me, honestly) who want a performance vehicle without bells and whistles is extremely small (I hate leather seats with a passion but can’t get power passenger seats, barely can find heated seats or even comfortable seats without “leather” which must people don’t even realize is synthetic most of the time) and there is very little profit in them so manufacturers don’t like to build them. They generally offer a stripped down econobox or a loaded premier when you go to buy.

You think there is a huge demand for affordable performance but there’s just not, at least not to the point you think there is. 98% of people want the look without the hassle and want to feel like they are being pampered and can show off their new purchase every time they get in. They don’t care about a V8, heritage or anything but the look. To most, cloth seats and no buzzy, beefy flashy light things ain’t the look. How many Denalis, Premiers, SX, Limiteds, etc. get sold in this country for no other reasons than status?

Think about it: whether I’m building a basic model or a loaded behemoth, the process is exactly the same, you just grab different modules from the pile. So why would I as a company spend the same labor rate to build a car to sell at $50K when I can sell one at $80K and people are buying them up left and right?

Like it or not Jeep is not your friend and not out to make you a good deal, they are in the business to make money. To do that, they need a demand. So they create a false one, the 392, mark it up to hell and sell them at a premium to make that money. As long as the sell is there, they’ll keep it up. And it is.
You're right Jeep is not out friend and is only out to make money. Can't disagree with you there! As far as there's no market for a less optioned V8 Jeep I 100% disagree. A lot of people would buy the hell out of the Jeep 392 with less expensive options such as cloth seats. Put up a poll. How many would buy a 392 for $60k or less given less expensive options. I guarantee many would respond that they would.
 

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You're right Jeep is not out friend and is only out to make money. Can't disagree with you there! As far as there's no market for a less optioned V8 Jeep I 100% disagree. A lot of people would buy the hell out of the Jeep 392 with less expensive options such as cloth seats. Put up a poll. How many would buy a 392 for $60k or less given less expensive options. I guarantee many would respond that they would.
Two different things, my good man: those who say they will and those who actually will. You will not find many people willing to plunk $60k down on a stripped down, no frills vehicle and will option it out once they actually order it.

We’ll have to agree to disagree at this point. But I hope you get what you want in the end.
 
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Two different things, my good man: those who say they will and those who actually will. You will not find many people willing to plunk $60k down on a stripped down, no frills vehicle and will option it out once they actually order it.

We’ll have to agree to disagree at this point. But I hope you get what you want in the end.
At $60k I'm not saying totally stripped down. It will still have power windows, lockes and a lot of good options. Instead you would just be able to chose Soft top ,cloth seats and plastic bumpers for example. And it should be cheaper then $60k but I'm being realistic with Jeeps pricing.

Basically not even really a stripper version. It will be the same. Just have more options to chose from besides top of the line premium. Not everyone wants leather especially for off roading. I know I don't. And I don't have anywhere to store a hard top safely. It would just be nice to be able to option it they way we want and save a little money. That's all.
 

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You're right Jeep is not out friend and is only out to make money. Can't disagree with you there! As far as there's no market for a less optioned V8 Jeep I 100% disagree. A lot of people would buy the hell out of the Jeep 392 with less expensive options such as cloth seats. Put up a poll. How many would buy a 392 for $60k or less given less expensive options. I guarantee many would respond that they would.
A poll on a Jeep forum is meaningless as far as total sales demand, we are here because we are enthusiasts. Most people willing to spend $60k+ on a vehicle want creature comforts. Again, you yourself think it's ridiculous to pay more than $30k for a vehicle without power windows and AC, but now you think there will be a huge demand for a stripped vehicle twice that price because it's got a v8? Buy a base sport for$30k and swap in a v8 for less than $20k. It's still a Jeep, it's not a scat pack where stripped means lighter weight for the drag strip and a lot of people will buy it just to drag race. Enthusiasts buy Jeeps to wheel them, a super Rubicon with the 392, Dana 60's, and 37's would sell more, and likely at $100k. Build time is basically the same across all Wranglers, if you were Jeep works would you spend your time and resources focusing on less profitable models for a few enthusiasts?
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