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No, she knows what she is in for, with a Jeep.

If she did complain that would be like moving next to a pig farm then complaining about the smell.
Replace pig farm with shooting range and airfield (not at the same location, fortunately!) and you'd be describing 60%+ of our community.
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I think Cybertrucks are fat Segways, the JLU is just a real Jeep that ate too many burgers and doesn't get off the couch enough
My Jeep may be fat but it's still flexible...
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Hi, I'm Dusty. And I am a condescending jerk. Just wanted to get that out of the way before I continue. This post is my opinion, not a statement of fact. And I know that a lot of people are going to disagree with me. I'm okay with that.

If you bought a Wrangler and you do not go off road, you bought the wrong vehicle. There are so many posts here, with owners complaining about things that are just inherent to how a Wrangler is constructed. "My Jeep rides worse than ____, my gas mileage is bad after lift and tires (duh), it's noisy inside, my steering is funny, etc, etc..."

Not all of these posts are uncalled for, but some of the people have a rather unreasonable expectation. And some wish for Jeep to change the Wrangler to be more in line to what they are expecting. That's where I don't agree with folks. Several times people have expressed the wish for the Wrangler to have IFS, fixed windshields, even a fixed top. If that's what you want, those vehicles already exist. There are other options from most manufacturers that fit those categories. But there is only one vehicle like the Wrangler. The "quirks and features" to quote Doug Demuro from YouTube are what makes the Wrangler unique and desirable. It's the only SUV still available with a solid axle. It's the only one that has a folding windshield. One of only 2 that has a removable top. The body on frame construction makes it heavy, but rugged. The recirculating ball steering has a heavy feel and combined with the sfa can have rough handling and steering problems compared to IFS. But it's much stronger and easier to modify for improved performance off road. The problems that most people complain about, are part and parcel with the attributes that make the Wrangler such a desirable vehicle to people who want to use their Jeep off road on the trails. But it makes it a bad choice for a daily commute vehicle if you don't intend to ever go wheeling. Especially if you have modified it for larger tires to look cool, but did not consider how that would impact the daily drive.

Rant over. Again, this is just words from a judgmental prick. Feel free to completely ignore me. But maybe, just maybe after reading this you will think about what I wrote and if there is a kernel of truth to it.
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Let's get old army jeeps and take them to the trail on a trailer. Heck they even make them in India.
 

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So sorry I don't have as many pictures of my own rig doing trails. I'm driving, so I don't have too many pictures of it. My wife has some along with folks we've been wheeling with. Since you seem to be intent on investigating, you should be able to find pictures from it on 4 badge of honor trails before I even modified it.
I'd actually have to log-in to IG to see more than a dozen pics, so I'll gladly take your word for it. I honestly just wanted to confirm that you had a 4-door to get in a few digs since you were angry about people that wanted the Wrangler to change away from attributes that made it a "unique" and capable off-roader for the sake of being a more enjoyable daily-driver.

If I knew that I'd find a shot from one of the two times you folded your windshield down 5 years ago, I'd certainly dig a little deeper ;)
 

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I'd actually have to log-in to IG to see more than a dozen pics, so I'll gladly take your word for it. I honestly just wanted to confirm that you had a 4-door to get in a few digs since you were angry about people that wanted the Wrangler to change away from attributes that made it a "unique" and capable off-roader for the sake of being a more enjoyable daily-driver.

If I knew that I'd find a shot from one of the two times you folded your windshield down 5 years ago, I'd certainly dig a little deeper ;)
Yeah, I didn't want a 4 door. But 2 teenage boys over 6' tall told me that I needed one. And I do view the 4 door as the successor of the old XJ. I will concede whole heartedly that the 4 door was the largest concession made to make the Wrangler appealing to the everyman.
 

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Yeah, I didn't want a 4 door. But 2 teenage boys over 6' tall told me that I needed one. And I do view the 4 door as the successor of the old XJ. I will concede whole heartedly that the 4 door was the largest concession made to make the Wrangler appealing to the everyman.
With two big strapping boys like that you should've gone with a real Jeep (2 door, just to be clear) and made them carry you to the trails so your tires don't touch disgusting pavement.

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