You bought the wrong vehicle.

[yokramer]

Shit, statistically, being filled with piss is a fetish for someone in this thread....

Only while swinging likely.

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[jeepingib]

I've enjoyed this conversation. Especially some of the leaps of logic that people do in order to justify their actions to a complete stranger on the internet, who is a self proclaimed jerk.

 

[2mnycars]

I've enjoyed this conversation. Especially some of the leaps of logic that people do in order to justify their actions to a complete stranger on the internet, who is a self proclaimed jerk.

enjoy.

 

[grimmjeeper]

I've enjoyed this conversation. Especially some of the leaps of logic that people do in order to justify their actions to a complete stranger on the internet, who is a self proclaimed jerk.

Yeah, I don't get trying to explain rational thought to people on the internet any more. It's easier to push a rope.

 

[yokramer]

Yeah, I don't get trying to explain rational thought to people on the internet any more. It's easier to push a rope.

I hear there are drugs for that now

 

[jeepingib]

Yeah, I don't get trying to explain rational thought to people on the internet any more. It's easier to push a rope.

For Grimmjeeper

 

[Wbino]

I've enjoyed this conversation. Especially some of the leaps of logic that people do in order to justify their actions to a complete stranger on the internet, who is a self proclaimed jerk.

No need to disparage yourself, we'll do the work.

 

[jeepingib]

No need to disparage yourself, we'll do the work.

Simply acceptance. I have cultivated quite a blend of toxic traits to become the man I am today.

 

[Terrymo]

 

[yokramer]

Simply acceptance. I have cultivated quite a blend of toxic traits to become the man I am today.

Clearly there are a lot of people around here that need to have some self awareness as well.

 

[GoatHerder]

After having the discussion at the dealership yesterday, without resolution and beginning to understand the complexities they face to get parts covered through third party warranty…..

my question, why my lifted tj drives better than my oem 20 Jl? I almost joined the I bought the wrong vehicle group,

refocused today after a nice evening of boating. Kinda cleared the brain, back to ball joint replacement, trackbars ordered and next tie rod drag link if needed, then new tires. Adjustable lower control arms are on standby.

did resolve to never sell my TJ,

 

[gdeyarmond]

 

[Old Jeeper]

Hi, I'm Dusty. And I am a condescending jerk. Just wanted to get that out of the way before I continue. This post is my opinion, not a statement of fact. And I know that a lot of people are going to disagree with me. I'm okay with that.

If you bought a Wrangler and you do not go off road, you bought the wrong vehicle. There are so many posts here, with owners complaining about things that are just inherent to how a Wrangler is constructed. "My Jeep rides worse than ____, my gas mileage is bad after lift and tires (duh), it's noisy inside, my steering is funny, etc, etc..."

Not all of these posts are uncalled for, but some of the people have a rather unreasonable expectation. And some wish for Jeep to change the Wrangler to be more in line to what they are expecting. That's where I don't agree with folks. Several times people have expressed the wish for the Wrangler to have IFS, fixed windshields, even a fixed top. If that's what you want, those vehicles already exist. There are other options from most manufacturers that fit those categories. But there is only one vehicle like the Wrangler. The "quirks and features" to quote Doug Demuro from YouTube are what makes the Wrangler unique and desirable. It's the only SUV still available with a solid axle. It's the only one that has a folding windshield. One of only 2 that has a removable top. The body on frame construction makes it heavy, but rugged. The recirculating ball steering has a heavy feel and combined with the sfa can have rough handling and steering problems compared to IFS. But it's much stronger and easier to modify for improved performance off road. The problems that most people complain about, are part and parcel with the attributes that make the Wrangler such a desirable vehicle to people who want to use their Jeep off road on the trails. But it makes it a bad choice for a daily commute vehicle if you don't intend to ever go wheeling. Especially if you have modified it for larger tires to look cool, but did not consider how that would impact the daily drive.

Rant over. Again, this is just words from a judgmental prick. Feel free to completely ignore me. But maybe, just maybe after reading this you will think about what I wrote and if there is a kernel of truth to it.

LUV IT!

But let me add something:

NYC, Dallas, Houston, San Franciso, Atlanta, Seattle, Wash DC Beltway and on and on.

I have driven my Jeep in every major city in the US and NOTHING compares to a SWB Jeep in the city, in the traffic, you name it.

Ask me how many time I have sat in traffic and said F THIS! Go 4 Low across the median and drive in the other direction.

Heavy traffic but moving fast enough, Jeep can move in and out of the lanes like snake.

Give me an opening the length of my Jeep and I can slide in and keep changing lanes till I get to where I am going in rush hour traffic.

Pull alongside some car and you have no doors, top off and you point into that opening in front of him...YEA he will let you in for sure because he wishes he could be you in that Jeep.

Then there are the BABES: Pulled up alongside a MB 500 SL, top-down, blonde babe in Miami, she smiles at me and wants to see my Jeep...that was 22 years ago and we are still married and now is a real Jeep girl who is getting ready to buy her 3rd Gladiator.

Jeep NOT just for only off road...

 

[BetterThanMine]

Im never gonna offroad the sport I bought, but I have a vehicle that has a basic engine, manual trans, basic interior and can handle whatever Im going throw at it. If I could have bought it without the screen I would have.

It does perplex me that someone would buy what essentially a small truck and complain about the truck qualities. I love vehicles that dont feel numb, that have a rough, raw natural mechanical feeling to them.

 

[GoatHerder]

New ball joints, passenger side, drives good, I am out of this group

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