What happens IF.....(these automatic features fail)

[seasearyder]

I'm just a few days away from ordering a 2026 Willys and I'm trying to decide if I want the Convenience Group package for $1,600. So many of the new optional features these days, I don't want or need. In addition there's always my concern that if an automatic feature fails, will I still be able to use it in a default manual mode or am I just SOL until I spend lots of money to fix the automatic part of it. I've never had any of these features, listed below, on any of my vehicles.

Therefore, here are my future concerns:

If the Automatic Temperature Control feature of my A/C goes out will I still be able to get A/C or Heat the old fashioned, manual way?.....or, will it possibly freeze at a specific, unbearable temp. and I'll have to get the auto feature fixed?

I'm guessing that if either of the next 2 features goes out it's probably not that big of deal, but just in case I'm wrong, are there ANY negative repercussions if the automatic part of these features fail:

1) Front Door Passive Entry & Lock

2) Remote Start System

Thanks!

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[yokramer]

This shits not new. Auto climate control has been around since the 60s, passive locks since the 90s and remote starts the 70s. They just turn into manual systems just like they always have.

 

[Twisted10]

 

[mwilk012]

Well. There is very little difference in these features actual functions, and there’s nothing new about them at all. There’s nothing “manual” about the manual air conditioning.

 

[Ratbert]

They just turn into manual systems just like they always have.

I'm not sure that's correct. My Uconnect went blank on me on the way to Pearl Pass (highly recommended trail with some astounding camping spots). Reseating fuses got it back, but there was no air conditioning for about a day.

 

[JL ME]

I'm just a few days away from ordering a 2026 Willys and I'm trying to decide if I want the Convenience Group package for $1,600. So many of the new optional features these days, I don't want or need. In addition there's always my concern that if an automatic feature fails, will I still be able to use it in a default manual mode or am I just SOL until I spend lots of money to fix the automatic part of it. I've never had any of these features, listed below, on any of my vehicles.

Therefore, here are my future concerns:

If the Automatic Temperature Control feature of my A/C goes out will I still be able to get A/C or Heat the old fashioned, manual way?.....or, will it possibly freeze at a specific, unbearable temp. and I'll have to get the auto feature fixed?

I'm guessing that if either of the next 2 features goes out it's probably not that big of deal, but just in case I'm wrong, are there ANY negative repercussions if the automatic part of these features fail:

1) Front Door Passive Entry & Lock

2) Remote Start System

Thanks!

I have a 2021 Willys 2 door and I went with manual everything. no option except the tow pkg.
I didn't even get A/C.
Keep in mind even manual things can fail!
One thing I do know is that my door off A/C will always work without fail!

 

[jadmt]

I have the climate control on my 2024 (the other stuff too) and I rarely use it. I set my side cold and my wife not so much. if mine failed I doubt I would even realize it. I never use the remote start or rarely anyway. probably less than 10 times in over 2 years. love the proximity door handles but I kind of wish there was feature to turn them off if I wanted to...ever notice how when you are washing your vehicle they can activate ...another funny feature is the auto headlight dimmers. when the head lights reflects off a road sign my lights dim.

 

[yokramer]

I'm not sure that's correct. My Uconnect went blank on me on the way to Pearl Pass (highly recommended trail with some astounding camping spots). Reseating fuses got it back, but there was no air conditioning for about a day.

And if your actual hvac controller in your 98 Camry died the ac wouldnt work in it either. Being afraid of technology is just silly its 2026 this shits been around for 60 years in some form or another.

 

[Ratbert]

And if your actual hvac controller in your 98 Camry died the ac wouldnt work in it either. Being afraid of technology is just silly its 2026 this shits been around for 60 years in some form or another.

You said:

They just turn into manual systems just like they always have.

as if there was some backup manual system. There isn't. When the touchscreen user interface fails there's no manual system to fall back to, even when the majority of the controls are actually manual.

They're vastly superior to manual systems, but they do not "just turn into manual systems."

 

[yokramer]

You said:


as if there was some backup manual system. There isn't. When the touchscreen user interface fails there's no manual system to fall back to, even when the majority of the controls are actually manual.

They're vastly superior to manual systems, but they do not "just turn into manual systems."

If the auto portion fails yes they turn into manual systems. If the whole thing fails, like in your scenario that wasnt asked about, it breaks just like they always have. If your auto climate control stops you can still manually set the climate control. If your passive entry stops working the locks turn into manual locks. If your remote start fails it turns into a regular start system.

 

[SmokyMtnsJeepGirl]

Although I have the convenience group, I could definitely do without the features you mentioned. I've never used the auto temp control, but might if we forego taking my husband's JK on a long road trip. So, the jury is still out on this feature, I guess.

I never use the remote start. I've had Jeeps going back to the YJ generation, so maybe this is just something I've never used in 35 years, so just don't think about it.

I do love the passive remote entry when I have my hands full, and it would be a pain to dig the fob out of my purse. But I also see it as a bit dangerous. To clarify, it might be detrimental in a situation where I'm in a parking lot or wherever, and a nefarious person is looking to do me harm, as I wouldn't have my fob out to hit the SOS button. But, on the flipside, if I could get in fast enough due to the proximity opening, I could quickly lock my door, so there's that.

I do love the auto high-beam dimming feature. I travel quite a few fairly busy two-lane dark roads where high beams are needed. It's a nice feature, but something I could do without paying $1600 for if I wasn't going to use the other features in the convenience group.

I prefer a stripped-down, "less is better" approach to electrical stuff in a Jeep. The only reason I have what I call a "fancy" Jeep is that I fell in love with the Sky-One Touch top, as my knees are bad and putting my soft top up and down solo was a literal pain. I would have everything manual if I could and still have the One-Touch top option. I still reach for my window crank when wanting to roll down my window - lol.

Also, just my preference, but I would never buy a hard top. Bought many dual tops over the years and invariably always ended up selling the hard top.

 

[LARSONEM]

Spend the money. You only live once. I bought a new 2022 Rubicon Unlimited. It’s got GPS, remote start, proximity locks, heated seats and temperature controls and I got LED lights too. I love them all. When I ordered it I passed on the technology package; adaptive cruise, auto dim headlights, blind side indicator and backup warning system. I wish I’d spent the money on it. A year later I wanted to add another Jeep to my fleet; a run around vehicle to use primarily in the winter. I bought a 2021 Willys two door; a pretty loaded vehicle. It has the technology package, LED lights and heated seats. It’s missing the proximity locks and GPS. Amazingly you get used to the features. Don’t skimp and be sorry later.

 

[seasearyder]

Hey, thanks everyone for your comments - they're just what I was looking for.

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