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Don't talk too loud, JLs as a whole are getting kicked in the nuts, they are not holding value like the prior bullet proof generations.
future gas vs ev resale is completely different
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History has shown that technology does not age well. What was high tech 10 years ago is basically outdated now. When the next generation of BEV and Hybrid vehicles hit the market the current crop of EV’s will be like 8 track tapes. Nobody will want them. Nobody wants an old cell phone for example. However some people will always want a all gas vehicle. All gas will have better resale . IMHO. Time will tell. We all have opinions
 

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History has shown that technology does not age well. What was high tech 10 years ago is basically outdated now. When the next generation of BEV and Hybrid vehicles hit the market the current crop of EV’s will be like 8 track tapes. Nobody will want them. Nobody wants an old cell phone for example. However some people will always want a all gas vehicle. All gas will have better resale . IMHO. Time will tell. We all have opinions
A 2020 GT500 absolutely annihilates a 2011 GT500. Are 2011 GT500s free now? ( own the former, owned the latter )

Your analogy is the worst I've ever seen.

Damn....the new EVs do 400 miles. This 310 mile Model Y is worthless.

" I'd rather pay 50k for the new Model Y that does 400 miles.....screw this 30k used car that does 310. I; like most people drive 400 miles per day. ICE for life!!!!"

inb4... " TeH baTTErY oNlY lAsTs 2 YeaRs"

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EV deniers are like kicking screaming babies I saw on the soccer field when my kids were 4.

" Omg it only goes 310 miles per charge????? " My 3.6L Jeep goes 280 per tank when I am nice to it.

BuT MuH gAS StaTioN!!! I DrIvE 3384845 MilEs peR DaY!!!

The US is doomed.
 

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MPG was always about cost to travel. It was an efficiency comparison. It wasn't about " 500 mile daily commutes. " All of a sudden everyone drives 500 miles per day. No one buys it. Sit down.

Miles per tank ( charge ) was never a thing until luddite oil trolls fell to the floor rejecting progress.

Most Americans drive 50 miles per day tops. Fact. OmG only 300 miles per charge?!??!??!?!??!111 Muh RaNGe aNxiETY!!!!!

But but but......BUT!!!! Charging the cars will crash the GrIdDDD!!!!!111. Refining gasoline for a car uses more electricity than charging an electric car. The net grid reduction from charging 1 electric car ( not even including home solar ) is an OVERALL reduction since the grid is no longer refining gasoline that citizen would have used otherwise.

You've lost. This isn't about left versus right. It's about the future and we need to phase out internal combustion engines everywhere they don't make sense which is most scenarios. We need to keep them in big diesel applications and trucking for a long time. Commuters? Gas? lol. No.
 

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A 2020 GT500 absolutely annihilates a 2011 GT500. Are 2011 GT500s free now? ( own the former, owned the latter )

Your analogy is the worst I've ever seen.

Damn....the new EVs do 400 miles. This 310 mile Model Y is worthless.

" I'd rather pay 50k for the new Model Y that does 400 miles.....screw this 30k used car that does 310. I; like most people drive 400 miles per day. ICE for life!!!!"

inb4... " TeH baTTErY oNlY lAsTs 2 YeaRs"

lol
We all have opinions. You sound triggered.
 

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btw I am a little triggered. A skinny shot me in the back in 2004....I know.....Trump doesn't like losers and PoWs amiright? I didn't see him....none of us did. I'm going to carry 7.62x39mm shrapnel in my spine the rest of my life so big tough guys could have cheap gas. I didn't see any of you there btw... All of us EV guys are environmentalist wackos amiright? We are lIBrULs right?

Keep talking shit.
 

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omG TriGgEr3D!!

Did you win the argument or do you sound 4 years old? I know...

You'll own an EV in the next several years ;)
Understanding that people might have a different option than yours is a sign of maturity and growth. Hopefully you get there someday..
 

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Understanding that people might have a different option than yours is a sign of maturity and growth. Hopefully you get there someday..
I'm actually OK that you got different options. Some want heated seats.....some don't.
 

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EV deniers are like kicking screaming babies I saw on the soccer field when my kids were 4.

" Omg it only goes 310 miles per charge????? " My 3.6L Jeep goes 280 per tank when I am nice to it.

BuT MuH gAS StaTioN!!! I DrIvE 3384845 MilEs peR DaY!!!

The US is doomed.
Will 750 mi range with 10 min charge be a game changer ? Heck, I might even consider replacing my GC with one. https://electrek.com>2024>01>11>Toyota-solid-state-ev-battery-plans-750-mi-range . “Two versions are expected: one offering 621 mi (1000km) WLTP range and a further evolution that features 750 mi (1,200km) ….. it’s aiming to roll out the new battery tech in 2027-2028 . Despite this in a recent Toyota Times post , the company said mass production is expected “for 2030 and beyond”.
Electrek - “Although Toyota is (again) promising it’s solid state ev battery will improve range and charging while lowering costs, we’ve heard this story several times before.

well- Toyota usually comes through……… but late doing it.
 

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Toyota is always slow and steady.

Hate my 200 year old 2023 Tacoma. Srs the tech sucks.
 

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With the way this thread has evolved, I wonder if the OP really cares anymore. Very few helpful posts.
 

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The pro 4XE crowd sure has a lot of hate and anger. This is an opinion thread. The OP is asking for opinions. One persons opinion is no more valid than the others. The OP could read all and make up their mind. Very simple
 

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The pro 4XE crowd sure has a lot of hate and anger. This is an opinion thread. The OP is asking for opinions. One persons opinion is no more valid than the others. The OP could read all and make up their mind. Very simple
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