Warranty Void Questions

[WrangleredUp]

Hi I’m purchasing a new Willys XR that has the halogen tails lights. In the future I may want to upgrade to the oracle flush mounts. I also would like to add the apex autolynx quick disconnects. Would these mods void parts of my factory warranty?

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[yokramer]

If the mods cause a part to fail yes. If you put the tail lights in and your diffs explode the next day that isnt cause to void your warranty on the diffs.

 

[kah.mun.rah]

A lot of it depends on the dealership. I have had one dealership that voids a warranty for anything electrical related if they find one mouse footprint under the hood (even if it isn't a wiring issue (i.e. locker sensor)). And have had other dealerships that play nice even when 50% of the Jeep has been modified.

 

[WrangleredUp]

A lot of it depends on the dealership. I have had one dealership that voids a warranty for anything electrical related if they find one mouse footprint under the hood (even if it isn't a wiring issue (i.e. locker sensor)). And have had other dealerships that play nice even when 50% of the Jeep has been modified.

Ok good to know. I will see what my dealership says.

 

[WrangleredUp]

If the mods cause a part to fail yes. If you put the tail lights in and your diffs explode the next day that isnt cause to void your warranty on the diffs.

Right that’s what I thought electrical parts only effect electrical part of warranty. Thanks!

 

[Ratbert]

Right that’s what I thought electrical parts only effect electrical part of warranty. Thanks!

I'm pretty sure they'd need evidence that what you did caused the failure.

 

[mwilk012]

Yes, that would void the warranty on the tail lights.
Be reasonable.

 

[embedded rock]

Your Willy's does come with LED tail lights.

 

[WrangleredUp]

Your Willy's does come with LED tail lights.

The specific Willys that I am purchasing does not have the active safety group. So It doesn’t have the LEDs.

 

[embedded rock]

The specific Willys that I am purchasing does not have the active safety group. So It doesn’t have the LEDs.

Gotcha, mine has them and I could not recall that detail. And the safety package is sumptin I could do without.

 

[ORACLElights]

Great choice on the new Willy XR!

Upgrading to our Oracle flush mount tail lights should not void your factory warranty. Since they’re plug-and-play, the only way a dealer could push back is if they believe the modification directly caused a related issue. That said, every dealership can handle things a little differently, so it’s always worth asking yours how they view aftermarket parts before making changes.

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[Chris D]

The Oracle lights are nice, actually awesome while they work, although I can't praise them for lifespan. My personal experience is they are only good for about 5-6 years, so keep that in mind. I went with the Morimoto for better blind spot sensor placement. Without the blind spot stuff, would probably have kept the Oracle lights. I can say their Oculus Bi-led headlights are absolutely awesome, way better then the stock LEDs also.

 

[jadmt]

keep your stock ones and if you have any electrical issues put the stock ones back in before going to the dealer.....

 

[VKSheridan]

There is no such thing as “voiding the warranty“. If you bolt on Oracle lights, you cannot ask Jeep to cover them if the fail, burn up your harness or make your engine misfire. You would need to pursue Oracle for defects.

Likewise, if you decide to fill your crankcase with water for lubrican, it doesn’t “void your warranty“, the engine still has warranty but the OEM is not responsible nor has to pay for the damages arising from such. If the radio fails from a factory assembly or material defect, the radio is still covered under warranty even if you drove it in without oil.

Per the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, once you purchase a product with a defined warranty, the manufacturer nor its representatives cannot legally rescind it. If the failure is not the result of factory assembly or material defect, they do not have an obligation to pay for any damages, direct or consequential.

If you do repairs to your vehicle yourself, you are not voiding any warranties BUT the OEM is not obligated to pay for mishaps of your work. If you bolt on a bumper and it rubs the tires, Michelin doesn’t owe you a replacement tire but the company that guaranteed fit and function might if their warranty covers consequential damage (most don’t).

Let’s say you take your Jeep to the Ford dealer to address a defective radiator tank that was accidentally molded with a pinhole. Jeep is obligated to honor the warranty but they are not obligated to pay the Ford dealer.

Lastly, warranty covers factory defect in material or assembly. It doesn’t cover normal wear, degradation, neglect or abuse. If something breaks simply because you found a way to break it, the OEM doesn’t owe for replacement absent a verifiable defect.

Volvo tried to deny an engine failure because the engine was operated with non-OEM oil filters. Since the oil filters did not cause the failure, Volvo (and the dealer) were found guilty of warranty fraud. They even had language in their conditional warranty statement that advised only OEM parts are to be used and that too was determined unlawful.

TLDR: It is unlawful to void a warranty. Any dealer that says the warranty is voided is talking out their ass.

 

[AndySpill]

Hi I’m purchasing a new Willys XR that has the halogen tails lights. In the future I may want to upgrade to the oracle flush mounts. I also would like to add the apex autolynx quick disconnects. Would these mods void parts of my factory warranty?

Let me answer, if I may, a more to point question. "Would these mods prevent my getting warrantied repairs done at no cost to me?""

I make this distinction because, no, by virtue of the Magnuson-Moss Act, warrantors can only deny coverage, (basically your initial question,) if the aftermarket part you've added is shown to have caused the damaged to the warrantied part. But some dealers deny service anyway, hopefully the minority.

At least Magnuson-Moss Act allows you to recover attorney's fees if judgement is in your favor, but pursuing a case can cost you quite a bit up front.

I've found a lot of parallels in business between Magnuson-Moss and patent protection. Here's why: you devise a nifty new product sure to be knocked off by competitors without such patent protections in place, costing you considerable amounts in legal fees to secure. But even with iron clad patents in hand, cease and desist orders against competitors cost a pretty penny in additional legal fees to enforce, and good luck doing so with some out of country manufacturers.

So laws themselves dissuade bad actors, but enforcement costs incentivize some to engage in unlawful practices anyway.

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