This easy drain plug looks much safer

[Rhinebeck01]

Gonna be the boomer and say an aftermarket drain plug on any Wrangler is a solution looking for a nonexistent issue.

It's a single low-torque bolt. Anything else is adding unnecessary complexity.

Funny ... "nonexistent issue" you say...

Tell that to all the many novices that cross thread the oil drain plug or over tighten the plug and damage the oil pan, or have a plug seize up in the pan or have a oil drain plug that is just in to tight to remove.

Whether you are a Novice or an old fruck that has drained hundreds of oil pans, things can go south in regard to the oil pan plug.. Not to add the fact that the metal that oil pans are made up of is flimsy these days.. easy damaged.

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[jaymz]

I used the Valvomax version for about a year, but finding and storing the adapter became a bit bothersome. I switched to the Fumoto and the easy, mess-free oil change became even easier.

 

[jaymz]

Funny ... "nonexistent issue" you say...

Tell that to all the many novices that cross thread the oil drain plug or over tighten the plug and damage the oil pan, or have a plug seize up in the pan or have a oil drain plug that is just in to tight to remove.

Whether you are a Novice or an old fruck that has drained hundreds of oil pans, things can go south in regard to the oil pan plug.. Not to add the fact that the metal that oil pans are made up of is flimsy these days.. easy damaged.

That wasn't even the issue for me. It was making sure the drain pan was in just the right spot to avoid a mess on the driveway, and after installing a skid plate, that became nearly impossible without something the size of a bathtub.

 

[travis304]

Tell that to all the many novices that cross thread the oil drain plug or over tighten the plug and damage the oil pan, or have a plug seize up in the pan or have a oil drain plug that is just in to tight to remove.

Gonna be even more boomer: If you're too stupid to know how to thread a simple bolt into a hole, you probably shouldn't be doing your own oil changes.

"A plug seizing up" isn't a thing unless you torque it with an impact.

Hey, if you like these doohicky kind of things, more power to you. After working on cars for a living, I just don't see the benefit.

 

[Rhinebeck01]

I used the Valvomax version for about a year, but finding and storing the adapter became a bit bothersome. I switched to the Fumoto and the easy, mess-free oil change became even easier.

Fumoto is the way to go... Whether on a Jeep, tractor, bull doze, Harley, airplane of whatever.
Built to last and they have a glowing track record, unlike some of the knockoffs.

Also.... I like that you can secure the Fumoto, on/off lever easily so it can not be inadvertently turned open by high grass or whatever or some dipshit that wants to crawl under and frigg with your vehicle.

With a simple old school 5/8" hose clip placed on the Fumoto Oil Drain Valve you then need a hefty pair of pliers and a decent grip to get the clip off..

 

[Rhinebeck01]

Gonna be even more boomer: If you're too stupid to know how to thread a simple bolt into a hole, you probably shouldn't be doing your own oil changes.

"A plug seizing up" isn't a thing unless you torque it with an impact.

Hey, if you like these doohicky kind of things, more power to you. After working on cars for a living, I just don't see the benefit.

@travis304

Not a boomer and ..... I have been doing oil changes on tractors, trucks, cars, airplanes, motorcycles Army Tanks, and such before you were born.

First vehicle I changed oil on was in 1958...

Fortunately though.... I did not have to make a living "working on cars".

 

[travis304]

@travis304

Not a boomer and ..... I have been doing oil changes on tractors, trucks, cars, airplanes, motorcycles Army Tanks, and such before you were born.

First vehicle I changed oil on was in 1958...

Fortunately though.... I did not have to make a living "working on cars".

Like I said man, if you enjoy this kind of stuff, go for it.

M1200 Knights, HMMVW's, Strykers and Abrams have standard oil drain plugs, too. Since you also spent time in a military motor pool, I'm sure you're aware.

Fortunately though..... I do not have to make a living "working on cars", anymore. Enjoy your retirement, old man

 

[SlickRicksWilly]

I have done more oil changes in my life than I can count and I just don't see the point in these devices. When I crawl under they I am aways wiping things down and checking things out. I have a garage that's a shop and not a showroom and a couple spilled drips will never be noticed, maybe that's the difference.

Do they save a significant amount of time or mess?

I still end up with a few drops when disconnecting the hose or removing it from the jug. As far a time savings; you don't need to remember the socket size, just need to remember the drain hose fitting. It doesn't require a tool after initial install, you can just use your hands. You can drain straight into an empty 5 gallon oil jug left over from your previous oil change, instead of a separate drain pan and having to transfer it to a container. It also reduces the possibility of stripping out the oil pan.

 

[alphawolff]

I really don't understand what's wrong with the factory drain plug. It works fine. It's a 13mm. it isn't hard to remove.

 

[SlickRicksWilly]

I really don't understand what's wrong with the factory drain plug. It works fine. It's a 13mm. it isn't hard to remove.

Nothing wrong with a factory plug. But with this, you can drain the oil straight into a empty 5 gallon oil jug, minimize the risk of screwing up a oil pan or stripping the drain plug, and drain the oil without tools (unless you count the hose adapter). If it weren't for the cartridge style filter requiring a 24mm you could effectively change the oil without any tools, which would be neat.

 

[alphawolff]

Nothing wrong with a factory plug. But with this, you can drain the oil straight into a empty 5 gallon oil jug, minimize the risk of screwing up a oil pan or stripping the drain plug, and drain the oil without tools (unless you count the hose adapter). If it weren't for the cartridge style filter requiring a 24mm you could effectively change the oil without any tools, which would be neat.

not to be that guy but this seems like a skill issue

 

[Dusty Dude]

Slightly off topic question: do you put oil on the replacement gasket of the oil filter or not?

 

[Jeep Junkie]

Slightly off topic question: do you put oil on the replacement gasket of the oil filter or not?

Yes I do

 

[travis304]

I really don't understand what's wrong with the factory drain plug. It works fine. It's a 13mm. it isn't hard to remove.

Absolutely nothing at all. These aftermarket drain plugs save you, what, 10-15 seconds on a 15 minute job?

It's retired boomers in Florida (apparently) who are bored and need something to putz and fiddle with. And slightly 'spergy owners who feel compelled to modify everything that is OEM.

 

[jaymz]

Absolutely nothing at all. These aftermarket drain plugs save you, what, 10-15 seconds on a 15 minute job?

It's retired boomers in Florida (apparently) who are bored and need something to putz and fiddle with. And slightly 'spergy owners who feel compelled to modify everything that is OEM.

In my opinion, it’s worth every penny if even just one time, I can avoid searching the bottom of a pan full of scalding hot oil for the drain plug.

And FWIW, “faster” isn’t even on the radar for me. It’s all about cleanliness. If you pull enough drain plugs, you’re going to drop one in the pan and/or spill/splash oil where you don’t want to.

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