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I can answer that question, You should not flat tow from ant bumper without adding a Frame tie in Bracket, Currently LOD is the only one that makes that. Reason being is the attachement where the bumper connects to the frame is just a very light weight piece of flat metal with two tiny welds connecting it to the frame, mopar says you should not tow from that connection. The Tie in plate is a heavy duty bracket that ties in the frame plate to the frame, then you can use the LOD tow connection bracket that through bolts to the tie in bracket, this is assuming that the bumper you chose is through bolt capable.

If you are pulling with a gas motorhome you need to watch your weight as you do not want to exceed 5000lbs typically, I recommend you install an aluminum bumper to manage the weight.

Myself when I set up my wrangler I installed the Blue OX tow plate as the LOD tie in bracket did not exist. While some have suggested that you lose clearance with the tow plate that is absolutely false as most of the bumper designed for towing are rather large with alot of heights for example the LOD towable Bumper is about 1/2-1' lower than my tow plate so clearance is about the same. In fact my tow connection is only 4.5" below the lowest bumper bolt, most of the towable bumpers set lower than that (That may cjhange as more bumpers become available)

With that said I plan to install the LOD tie in bracket and Blue OC connection bracket and remove my tow plate simply for aesthetics. I use the Barricade Alloy (aluminum bumper (45lbs)

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I was looking at the Barricade Alloy on the Extremeterrain.com and they indicated that the Blue Ox baseplate was not compatible with this bumper. Since you have it installed I'm guessing that the folks at Extremeterrain don't know as much as they should. I already have the baseplate installed on my JL Sport S and wanted to change the ugly plastic bumper. I was going to go with a Rubicon steel bumper but I do like your setup. Did you have any issues during the install?
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While in the planning stages of buying our '19 JL I went to the build/price section of Jeep.com. After comparing trim levels I knew right off I wouldn't need a Rubi. The Rubi's are great right out of the box, but being new to Jeeps the Sahara is ready to do things that are way over my level of competence without any mods at all. Being a member of a Corvette forum, and owning Corvette's for years I know some buy the Z06 just so they can say "mines bigger than yours". I didn't have any need to step into that club by getting a Rubicon.

BTW, with 2 weeks in owning this Sahara we are absolutely lovin' it.

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I was looking at the Barricade Alloy on the Extremeterrain.com and they indicated that the Blue Ox baseplate was not compatible with this bumper. Since you have it installed I'm guessing that the folks at Extremeterrain don't know as much as they should. I already have the baseplate installed on my JL Sport S and wanted to change the ugly plastic bumper. I was going to go with a Rubicon steel bumper but I do like your setup. Did you have any issues during the install?

Most bumper manufacture say you should not tow with their bumpers, it is not because the bumpers are the issue it is the frame-plate that the bumpers attached to on the Wrangler. To make the Barricade alloy work you need the bumper of course. the Barricade bumper thru bolts to the frame-plate and LOD just started making a JL Frame Tie in Brackets (these are a must) as they will basically allow for the tow connection to bypass the frame-plate (although this is used in conjunction with the frame plate, the frame plate is not strong enough by it self.

https://lodoffroad.com/products/jee...s/front-bumpers/jl-frame-tie-in-brackets.html

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Now you will need the thru bolted Blue OX mounting bracket, there are two options for this one is the Rock Hard Blue Ox Bracket as you can see it is just a thru bolt bracket, my only concern is it is only a 2-bolt bracket, but should be fine.

https://www.rockhard4x4.com/product_p/rh-8000-bo.htm

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Quick last minute ride today with my good friend in the blue JL and a newbie in the JKU rubicon.

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New Owner here: Just picked up my 2018 Sahara JLU. Granite w/ blk HT ( Switched out the color match HT for blk). Swapped stock Sahara wheels and tires for Rubicon set up. Powder coated black satin wheels with 33” BFGoodwrench Mud Terrain. Trying to figure what lift I should install... keeping the 33” tires... have been looking at Teraflex 1.5”.

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Hello. Also a JLU Sahara and looking at a JLUR wheel and tire swap. No left here in the pictures correct? Looks great BTW!!! Please let me know. Thanks!
 

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Got to really stretch her legs out at one of the parks near me. Always been a fan of RK but man I’m in love with their kits on the JL’s.

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I recently started flat towing after installing the rockhard4x4 Patriot full width aluminum bumper with recessed winch mount.

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Bought our first Jeep in December and found this forum not to long after. I've been reading up when I have time and figured I'd throw ours in the mix. I'd also like to know if anyone can tell me how to determine what size lift we have? It was already lifted and had 35's when we bought it.

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Bought our first Jeep in December and found this forum not to long after. I've been reading up when I have time and figured I'd throw ours in the mix. I'd also like to know if anyone can tell me how to determine what size lift we have? It was already lifted and had 35's when we bought it.

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Welcome and nice Jeep!

Based on the little space in your wheel well, it doesn't look lifted at all other than the lift from the bigger tires. Best way to tell is look at the shocks from the back. If they are the black Mopar shocks with no extensions on the bottom, then there is no lift. Maybe you can post some pics of that.
 

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A Spacer Lift does not always have shock extensions. My 1st lift (before I did the Rancho 3.5") was a 2" spacer lift with No extensions.
 

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Thanks for the welcome and the quick replies to my question..Here's a couple pics..I'm guessing no lift..I didn't think you could fit 35's on a JL without lift. I knew you could a Rubi .How much lift can you put on a JL and not sacrifice to much ride quality?..I'm guessing 2".

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Thanks for the welcome and the quick replies to my question..Here's a couple pics..I'm guessing no lift..I didn't think you could fit 35's on a JL without lift. I knew you could a Rubi .How much lift can you put on a JL and not sacrifice to much ride quality..I'm guessing 2"

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Those brackets at the bottom of the shocks are indeed extensions. Looks like you have a 2" lift.
 

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I just bought a 2018 Sport. I live in Florida; rock crawling is not on my calendar. I will encounter mud and sugar sand when wheeling for fun, and water fording as well, especially after tropical storms/hurricanes. I don’t plan on modding ANYTHING, except to get 33s to replace the stock A/Ts when it’s time, and to maybe throw a new front bumper and winch on it.

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I bought my ‘18 JLU Sport S at the end of June. Got a great deal that allowed me to add some new wheels, tires, lift and get a vinyl wrap. I’m really happy with it! I’ve taken it off road a few times now and have a fun trip planned for this weekend too :). Here are some pics...
When I first brought her home,
When I got up to Sedona and enjoyed Schnebly Hill and loved Broken Arrow!
The muddy long trail ride home! (Scratched the heck out of my new Jeep :( )

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